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Proud Pies 
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very interesting story. Should be read by all
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/the-lucky-country/2008/02/12/1202760300262.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
| Quote: | "People look at me walking around in my suit and doing my work and wouldn't get close to understanding the grief I carry around in my head every day," he said.
"But an apology has been a long time coming and it really will bring people back together. It will bring a lot of division and hostility to a close and a lot of indigenous people have been waiting for that.
"Sorry may just be a word, but it should help the history of our past come back into our curriculum for the current generation to learn. It shouldn't be pushed under the carpet any longer and an apology will mean a monumental weight has been lifted from people's shoulders.
"It's not just for me, it's for many generations of indigenous people who were affected by former governments. It's like saying sorry to anybody who has had a death in their family so they can grieve and get on with it.
"A lot of people who haven't got long to live . . . it will be significant to them in bringing them a bit of peace to think their children can have a better time of mixing into the general community." |
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tcnthat 
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Yeah its a great story about a wonderful player who overcame remarkable disadvantages...and I would not wish to detract from a great story about an obviously great Australian.
But given the basis for this site, it would truly be remiss not to point out a couple of facts about Syd Jackson as pertaining to Collingwood.
"He was reported for striking after the 1970 second semi-final, but beat the charge when he said his opponent had made remarks about his colour."
From the Age article posted by PP
Succinct and accurate, but a crucial point ommitted.
From a Scum history page
"One such snap occurred at a crucial time for Jackson and for Carlton, during the Blues’ Second Semi-Final loss to Collingwood in 1970. Syd was reported for striking Magpie defender Lee Adamson, and seemed likely to be suspended for the rest of the Final Series. Enter Carlton President George Harris, who persuaded Jackson to tell the tribunal that Adamson had racially abused him. Syd complied, pleading not guilty due to extreme provocation. To Jackson and Carlton’s relief, the tribunal accepted Jackson’s story and exonerated him. Years later, Syd owned up to the truth and apologised to Adamson, saying that while Adamson didn’t say what Jackson said he did, there were others who overstepped the mark, so justice was done in the end."
http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=Syd+Jackson
Funny idea of justice! Some bloke called me a racist name once, so its a nice get out of gaol free card when I lose my shit and snap someone....
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HAL
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Proud Pies
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i only posted this article in relation to all the debates about the stolen generations.
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member34258
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Jackson was told by his employers top man to lie.
I do not see how that incident in any way lessens his experience as part of the stolen generation. To me it just makes it worse that an employer would expect an employee to use his Ab originality to further the employers cause.
Disgraceful. |
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Maxwell's Silver Hammer 
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Syd Jackson was exploited by the unscrupulous Carlton heirarchy led by G Harris at the time, and I feel just as sorry for him as I did for Lee Adamson for having his reputation destroyed.
Syd is a terrific guy and he was on a hiding to nothing in this instance.
Anyone who knew Lee Adamson back then would have known the allegation of racial abuse made against him was utter rubbish.
All round it was a sad chapter in an Australia of yesterday.
On an unrelated matter, is C365 down?
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stui magpie 
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| magpie greg wrote: | Syd Jackson admitted he lied. He hit Adamson who was giving him a pantsing aat the time nd then resorted to perjury at the tribunal. He said Adamson racially abused him.
So his reputation is besmirched I'm afraid.
Also unnecessailry tarred the character of Lee Adamson. Lee took it in his stride but had to live with it for 22 years before Jackson belatedly decided he had to clear his conscience. |
WTF?  
Apologies, I wasn't criticising the content, just expressing confusion at the poster.
I agree with what you say, but also tend to agree with Member's comment about being bullied into it by his employer.
From memory he copped some absolute crap at Carlton including having trainers refusing to rub him down because he was Aboriginal. Falsely accusing Lee was a lousy thing but even though the nuremberg defence was thrown out, it has applicability.
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pica
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| member34258 wrote: | Jackson was told by his employers top man to lie.
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He could have been a real man and refused to lie!
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HAL
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member34258
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| pica wrote: | | member34258 wrote: | Jackson was told by his employers top man to lie.
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He could have been a real man and refused to lie! |
What planet do you live on?
This was the 1970's. An Aboriginal would consider himself just a step away from the sack if he did not do as requested, sorry, suggested.
You really cannot apply 21st century thinking to such a time. |
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stui magpie
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| member34258 wrote: | | pica wrote: | | member34258 wrote: | Jackson was told by his employers top man to lie.
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He could have been a real man and refused to lie! |
What planet do you live on?
This was the 1970's. An Aboriginal would consider himself just a step away from the sack if he did not do as requested, sorry, suggested.
You really cannot apply 21st century thinking to such a time. |
Ya know, I've tried to argue that you can't apply 21st century thinking to a number of things that happened in the past and got howled down.
But, FWIW, I agree.
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member34258
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| stui magpie wrote: | .
But, FWIW, I agree. |
Don't you dare!!!
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Dale61
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So, when Jackson said sorry, did he really mean it?
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pica
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| member34258 wrote: | | pica wrote: | | member34258 wrote: | Jackson was told by his employers top man to lie.
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He could have been a real man and refused to lie! |
What planet do you live on?
This was the 1970's. An Aboriginal would consider himself just a step away from the sack if he did not do as requested, sorry, suggested.
You really cannot apply 21st century thinking to such a time. |
So are you suggesting that , had Jackson refused to lie , Carlton/Elliott would have sacked him? The explanation would have been interesting.
What planet indeed!
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EBB
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| member34258 wrote: | | pica wrote: | | member34258 wrote: | Jackson was told by his employers top man to lie.
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He could have been a real man and refused to lie! |
What planet do you live on?
This was the 1970's. An Aboriginal would consider himself just a step away from the sack if he did not do as requested, sorry, suggested.
You really cannot apply 21st century thinking to such a time. |
Bollocks! Absolute Bollocks! |
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