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sherrife 
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I agree with you that it's a step in the right direction, but lets prepared to be underwhelmed by the actual policy decisions Rudd makes in the near future.
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spoljar 
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| All looks good to me. Agree with Sherriff though that words will only go so far. However I also agree that Krudd needs to be given a chance! |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Joined: 22 Jun 2004
Location: John Wren's tote
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| spoljar wrote: | | All looks good to me. Agree with Sherriff though that words will only go so far. However I also agree that Krudd needs to be given a chance! |
After all some of us gave little lap dog johnny 11 years grace.
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Culprit 
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Location: Port Melbourne
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Howard's decade of inaction and ignoring facts shows us the true racist he is. The only living PM not to attend this historic day shows us all the type of man he truly is as well. Historic day and for once the facts have been stated instead of lies to make the white man look justified in their actions.
This is not just about words. This is acceptance in our dark past. |
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Zakal
One Game, One Club, One Jumper
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| Culprit wrote: | Howard's decade of inaction and ignoring facts shows us the true racist he is. The only living PM not to attend this historic day shows us all the type of man he truly is as well. Historic day and for once the facts have been stated instead of lies to make the white man look justified in their actions.
This is not just about words. This is acceptance in our dark past. |
So Hawke and Keating both recanted their original decisions not to attend? |
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Zakal
One Game, One Club, One Jumper
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
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| Morrigu wrote: | | Zakal wrote: | ...im pretty sure Rudd supports the intervention and has pledged to continue it, so im not sure what getting rid of Howard has accomplished on that front.
So the actions are the same, only the words are different. Thats what David and Omar were talking about. |
Really did I miss liitle Johnny even pretending to be sincere and offering an apology - the verdict on Rudd's actions to backup his words has yet to be determined - liitle Johnny's words or lack of and actions are a matter of history |
My apologies, i took the quote below to be in reference to Johnny's military intervention...although in my defence, it was part of the same sentence.
| Quote: | | Ridding ourselves of the likes of Howard are a huge step in the right direction – the military intervention was and is an absolute disgrace!!! |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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| That is a very original thought. What is your real name? |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Port Melbourne
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| Zakal wrote: | | Culprit wrote: | Howard's decade of inaction and ignoring facts shows us the true racist he is. The only living PM not to attend this historic day shows us all the type of man he truly is as well. Historic day and for once the facts have been stated instead of lies to make the white man look justified in their actions.
This is not just about words. This is acceptance in our dark past. |
So Hawke and Keating both recanted their original decisions not to attend? |
Of course the pressure was on to attend. Howard stands alone once again that is what comes from today. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
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facebook status update: John Howard is sad about the victim mentality that has been reinforced today.
In the end, aside from all the grandstanding, there are real issues that are present here. I have more respect for Howard in sticking by his genuine opinions on the matter than if he had followed the crowd because he was expected to.
But this isn't really about Howard any more. It's about Australia's Aboriginal people, their past, but far more importantly, their present and futures. Most will see that Rudd has made an important step in confronting the past today, but that makes no guarantee that he is truly committed to their future. Let us hope he is, because god knows, we've needed someone to be for a long time now.
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sherrife
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| David wrote: | In the end, aside from all the grandstanding, there are real issues that are present here. I have more respect for Howard in sticking by his genuine opinions on the matter than if he had followed the crowd because he was expected to.
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You have more respect for him for sticking to his racist, ignorant, bigoted opinion?
So I guess Saddam Hussein, George Bush, Hitler, and Stalin all have your respect then. They haven't/never recanted on their brilliant ideas either.
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David
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Well, there is a fine line between stubborn arrogance and being true to your beliefs. I would find it difficult to compare Howard's ideas, as horrible as you view them, with the blatant tyranny of the despots you list (leaving Bush aside for the moment).
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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| David wrote: | | Well, there is a fine line between stubborn arrogance and being true to your beliefs. I would find it difficult to compare Howard's ideas, as horrible as you view them, with the blatant tyranny of the despots you list. |
But it's the same concept. There's no "honour" in sticking to your ideas just for the sake of sticking.
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nomadjack
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| Great symbolic gesture today. Or should that be 'grandstanding' David?Rudd has made some firm committments to addressing indigenous disadvantage. He should and will be judged against them. |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Did it go Okay because I have not seen it yet?
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