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spoljar Libra



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:55 pm
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A corrupt, ruthless bastard, who ruled with an iron fist and was responsible for the deaths of countless thousands.

Will not be missed!

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=372139
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:08 pm
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spoljar wrote:
A corrupt, ruthless bastard, who ruled with an iron fist and was responsible for the deaths of countless thousands.

Will not be missed!

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=372139


Extremely succinct and accurate description. Hopefully Mugabe is next.

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spoljar Libra



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:53 pm
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Tess wrote:
Should we send Flowers or something?


Yep, Adams family style roses should be appropriate! Wink
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sherrife Scorpio

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:25 pm
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Great news.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:08 am
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good riddance to the filthy piece of crap

may he rot in hell for eternity
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OEP Pisces



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:54 am
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Must admit hearing about his death made my day, an absolute piece of sh!t.
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sherrife Scorpio

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:59 am
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Though I should add, I will probably say the same when Bush dies as well. Has probably killed far more people. Howard's on a much smaller scale, so can't really be put on the same pedestal as these guys.

Though I genuinely believe if he was president of a major power like the US he would be just as evil as Bush has been.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:29 am
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But sherrife, are his crimes any worse than any other scumbag that you like not punishing?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:43 am
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Actually Suharto probably is worse than Bush. Bush is responsible for the deaths of citizens of countries upon which he has declared war. Suharto did that in East Timor but most of his victims were his own countrymen. Suharto stands with Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot as a mass murderer of his own citizens. There are lots of murderous dictators - Pinochet, Franco, Mugabe, Mussolini, etc. etc. but few killed as many as Suharto!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:36 pm
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why are we sending representatives to the pigs funeral?

i think its cause we have and still will kiss indonesia's arse
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:47 pm
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Should we really take pleasure in someone else's death, no matter how horrible they were?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:04 pm
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GO RUPERT 10 wrote:
why are we sending representatives to the pigs funeral?

i think its cause we have and still will kiss indonesia's arse


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sherrife Scorpio

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:31 pm
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David wrote:
Should we really take pleasure in someone else's death, no matter how horrible they were?


That's a uselessly moralistic attitude. A brutal dictator is a brutal dictator; no one mourned Hitler or Stalin, and no one should have.

BTW nuxta you opportunistic dolt, I never said I would support killing the man. My opinion RE the death penalty and punishment in general stands.

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sherrife Scorpio

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:53 am
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Indonesia, master card in Washington’s hand
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Suharto took power in 1965, with Washington’s strong support and assistance. Army-led massacres wiped out the PKI [Partai Komunis Indonesia/Communist Party of Indonesia] and devastated its mass base in “one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century,” comparable to the atrocities of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, the CIA reported, judging “the Indonesian coup” to be “certainly one of the most significant events of the 20th century”. Perhaps half a million or more were killed within a few months.

The events were greeted [by] undisguised euphoria. The New York Times described the “staggering mass slaughter” as “a gleam of light in Asia,” praising Washington for keeping its own role quiet so as not to embarrass the “Indonesian moderates” who were cleansing their society, then rewarding them with generous aid. Time praised the “quietly determined” leader Suharto with his “scrupulously constitutional” procedures “based on law, not on mere power” as he presided over a “boiling bloodbath” that was “the West’s best news for years in Asia”.


And from our very own Alexander D.

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“He was a man who despite his human rights record in Indonesia, which was less than desirable, he was committed to a good relationship with Australia and understood the importance of Australia to Indonesia,” Mr Downer told AAP from his home in the Adelaide Hills.

“I always appreciated that and he was always very civil in my dealings with him and very responsive to building a relationship between Australia and Indonesia.

“He had a very good vision for building a strong South-East Asian community and a positive view about Australia being part of that.”

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:46 am
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No great loss to the world
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