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spoljar
Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Location: Lynbrook
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Extremely succinct and accurate description. Hopefully Mugabe is next. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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spoljar
Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Location: Lynbrook
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Tess wrote: | Should we send Flowers or something? |
Yep, Adams family style roses should be appropriate! |
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
Joined: 18 Apr 2003
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Great news. _________________ I would be ashamed to admit that I had risen from the ranks. When I rise it will be with the ranks... - Eugene Debs |
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GO RUPERT 10
Joined: 27 Apr 2001 Location: THOMASTOWN,VIC,AUSTRALIA
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good riddance to the filthy piece of crap
may he rot in hell for eternity |
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OEP
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Location: Perth
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Must admit hearing about his death made my day, an absolute piece of sh!t. _________________ A Collingwood supporter since the egg was inseminated. |
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
Joined: 18 Apr 2003
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Though I should add, I will probably say the same when Bush dies as well. Has probably killed far more people. Howard's on a much smaller scale, so can't really be put on the same pedestal as these guys.
Though I genuinely believe if he was president of a major power like the US he would be just as evil as Bush has been. _________________ I would be ashamed to admit that I had risen from the ranks. When I rise it will be with the ranks... - Eugene Debs |
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Pa Marmo
Side by Side
Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Location: Nicks BB member #617
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But sherrife, are his crimes any worse than any other scumbag that you like not punishing? _________________ Genesis 1:1 |
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Dr Pie
Dr Pie
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Actually Suharto probably is worse than Bush. Bush is responsible for the deaths of citizens of countries upon which he has declared war. Suharto did that in East Timor but most of his victims were his own countrymen. Suharto stands with Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot as a mass murderer of his own citizens. There are lots of murderous dictators - Pinochet, Franco, Mugabe, Mussolini, etc. etc. but few killed as many as Suharto! _________________ Born and raised in Black and White |
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GO RUPERT 10
Joined: 27 Apr 2001 Location: THOMASTOWN,VIC,AUSTRALIA
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why are we sending representatives to the pigs funeral?
i think its cause we have and still will kiss indonesia's arse |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Should we really take pleasure in someone else's death, no matter how horrible they were? _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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GO RUPERT 10 wrote: | why are we sending representatives to the pigs funeral?
i think its cause we have and still will kiss indonesia's arse |
We don't want to piss off the Terriosts so they Don't Attack Australia _________________ I am Da Man |
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
Joined: 18 Apr 2003
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David wrote: | Should we really take pleasure in someone else's death, no matter how horrible they were? |
That's a uselessly moralistic attitude. A brutal dictator is a brutal dictator; no one mourned Hitler or Stalin, and no one should have.
BTW nuxta you opportunistic dolt, I never said I would support killing the man. My opinion RE the death penalty and punishment in general stands. _________________ I would be ashamed to admit that I had risen from the ranks. When I rise it will be with the ranks... - Eugene Debs |
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
Joined: 18 Apr 2003
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Indonesia, master card in Washington’s hand
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Suharto took power in 1965, with Washington’s strong support and assistance. Army-led massacres wiped out the PKI [Partai Komunis Indonesia/Communist Party of Indonesia] and devastated its mass base in “one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century,” comparable to the atrocities of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, the CIA reported, judging “the Indonesian coup” to be “certainly one of the most significant events of the 20th century”. Perhaps half a million or more were killed within a few months.
The events were greeted [by] undisguised euphoria. The New York Times described the “staggering mass slaughter” as “a gleam of light in Asia,” praising Washington for keeping its own role quiet so as not to embarrass the “Indonesian moderates” who were cleansing their society, then rewarding them with generous aid. Time praised the “quietly determined” leader Suharto with his “scrupulously constitutional” procedures “based on law, not on mere power” as he presided over a “boiling bloodbath” that was “the West’s best news for years in Asia”.
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And from our very own Alexander D.
Quote: | “He was a man who despite his human rights record in Indonesia, which was less than desirable, he was committed to a good relationship with Australia and understood the importance of Australia to Indonesia,” Mr Downer told AAP from his home in the Adelaide Hills.
“I always appreciated that and he was always very civil in my dealings with him and very responsive to building a relationship between Australia and Indonesia.
“He had a very good vision for building a strong South-East Asian community and a positive view about Australia being part of that.”
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Alec. J. Hidell
Joined: 12 May 2007
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No great loss to the world _________________ The one man in the world, who never believes he is mad, is the madman. |
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