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hoggy Pisces

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:31 pm
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Dale61 wrote:
Do you realise that the law states that you CAN record off the tv, but after watching it once, the copy MUST be destroyed.

It is also illegal to make a copy (DVD) of the source (VHS) if it has already been recorded from tv.


Check the laws, it's been changed.

http://www.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/infosheets_pdf/g095.htm

Proposal.

www.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/infosheets_pdf/g096.pdf

Law.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:35 pm
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hoggy wrote:
Dale61 wrote:
Do you realise that the law states that you CAN record off the tv, but after watching it once, the copy MUST be destroyed.

It is also illegal to make a copy (DVD) of the source (VHS) if it has already been recorded from tv.


Check the laws, it's been changed.

http://www.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/infosheets_pdf/g095.htm

Proposal.

www.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/infosheets_pdf/g096.pdf

Law.


The Important Word there is Personal Use Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:43 pm
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So, what does this really mean then?

Quote:
If something is legitimately copied from radio or TV under the provision, it will nonetheless become an infringing
copy if it is later:
• sold, rented or distributed (unless it is only loaned to a member of the person’s family or household); or
• played or shown in public or broadcast.

There is no express obligation to destroy the recording once it has been watched. However, the government made the following statement about the intention behind the new provision:
Whilst the exception does not require immediate deletion of the television or radio program after watching or listening to it, the exception does not permit a person to record a broadcast and keep it indefinitely in a collection of films or sound recordings for repeated use.


Repeated use would be more than once, wouldn't it?

Part two of my quote is still true. If you record something off the TV in VHS format, you cannot make a copy in DVD format, and vice versa.

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hoggy Pisces

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:29 pm
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Regardless, do you know in some county in England, if you graffiti a bridge, you can still get sent to Australia as punishment?

There are millions of laws that never get enforced, this would be one such.

I think many, many people download things illegally, it's only the dumb ones that come out and say it though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:40 pm
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hoggy wrote:
Regardless, do you know in some county in England, if you graffiti a bridge, you can still get sent to Australia as punishment?

There are millions of laws that never get enforced, this would be one such.

I think many, many people download things illegally, it's only the dumb ones that come out and say it though.


Well if I could find the Downloading Torrents Thread that was on hear a few years bask than I guess there would be a Few People Here in that boat

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:44 am
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hoggy wrote:

I think many, many people download things illegally, it's only the dumb ones that come out and say it though.


Never a truer statement has been posted, especially when they do so on a public forum.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:18 am
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Dale61 wrote:
hoggy wrote:

I think many, many people download things illegally, it's only the dumb ones that come out and say it though.


Never a truer statement has been posted, especially when they do so on a public forum.


Okay I get it Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:16 pm
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I download...I download email messages and attachments all the time...I'm a criminal. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:31 pm
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Bah, copyright laws are designed to benefit corporations, no one else. I ignore them at every opportunity, and encourage those who are still undecided on the piracy issue to do the same.

The restrictions on the personal use of music and dvds is an easy way of bringing those who are not overtly political to see that corporations are f@$king evil.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:32 pm
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sherrife wrote:
Bah, copyright laws are designed to benefit corporations, no one else. I ignore them at every opportunity, and encourage those who are still undecided on the piracy issue to do the same.


I think I hear Dale dialling the Feds now.........
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:34 pm
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sherrife wrote:
Bah, copyright laws are designed to benefit corporations, no one else. I ignore them at every opportunity, and encourage those who are still undecided on the piracy issue to do the same.

The restrictions on the personal use of music and dvds is an easy way of bringing those who are not overtly political to see that corporations are f@$king evil.
Oh, restrictions on the personal use of music and dvds is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:47 pm
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Dale61 wrote:
hoggy wrote:

I think many, many people download things illegally, it's only the dumb ones that come out and say it though.


Never a truer statement has been posted, especially when they do so on a public forum.


You guys are very, very naive if you think that somebody with money couldn't trace anything we've ever done on the net.

Nothing is private online.

Our strength is in our numbers, they could never try to sue the entire population of people who have downloaded something illegally at some point in their lives. They only really care about major uploaders for the time being, because they are relatively few.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:20 am
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sherrife is spot on and also we are a nation built by Convicts. Our Culture is to get things on the sly. Next to China per capita population we are the biggest pirates. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:50 am
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sherrife wrote:
Dale61 wrote:
hoggy wrote:

I think many, many people download things illegally, it's only the dumb ones that come out and say it though.


Never a truer statement has been posted, especially when they do so on a public forum.


You guys are very, very naive if you think that somebody with money couldn't trace anything we've ever done on the net.

Nothing is private online.

Our strength is in our numbers, they could never try to sue the entire population of people who have downloaded something illegally at some point in their lives. They only really care about major uploaders for the time being, because they are relatively few.


How do you come to the conclusion that I am naive?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:55 am
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My statement was a very clear IF, THEN universal statement. I didn't say anything about you.
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