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Northern Pie
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They are all as bad as each other....Not one honest one among them! they will feed as much bullshit to the public, telling them what they want to hear just to get elected. I look forward to a day where one will stand up and only promise exactly what they can actually deliver, but I am afraid that, that day will never come.
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Jason 
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| Quote: | | They are all as bad as each other....Not one honest one among them! |
You sound like that family first ad  |
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| Northern Pie wrote: | They are all as bad as each other....Not one honest one among them! they will feed as much bullshit to the public, telling them what they want to hear just to get elected. I look forward to a day where one will stand up and only promise exactly what they can actually deliver, but I am afraid that, that day will never come.
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Offer us an alternative. |
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Fair enough trying to make sure they get it right. Far better than flying in with some half assed stuff they haven't fully thought through.
However, I hope his time frame to introduce the new legislation comes forward a fair bit, for the sake of certainty amongst business. If they have to endure an extended period of not knowing WTF is going to happen, that will cause issues.
Better to draft the legislation, include an extended transition period and get it in sooner rather than later so everyone knows what is going to happen and when.
And good onya for saying the past is the past. It would be very boring if everytime Kruddy was criticised, all his supporters could come back with was "Well, Howard did........."  
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Proud Pies 
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and this is also why the Community Groups of Your Rights At Work will continue working to achieve what we set out to achieve 2 years ago.
But, first the Government has to get the changes through the Senate and until July 1, that's going to be hard as there is a hostile Senate.
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Proud Pies
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| eddiesmith wrote: | Yet I seem to remember that Howard went to the polls saying if he is re elected then the GST will come in and the people were happy with it (Some of us alot happier than others  ) unlike Bracksy and his 'No Tolls' promise yet suddenly the money disappeared very quickly and he had to turn it into a toll road now Rudd heading the same way with WorkChoices |
I have explained this to you before, but since you are obviously very thick, let me explain to you again just why the Tolls had to come in.
It all goes back to your Hawthorn President days of Jeffrey Kennett and the selling off of the Public Transport System and the contracts he put in place.
Both of the operators of the PUblic Transport system were given contracts which they could walkout of. M Trains did exactly that., They walked away leaving millions of dollars of debt to be picked up by the Bracks Government about a week after the election four years ago.
They didn't bail out M Trains, but they needed to put millions into keeping the lines that M Train ran (including tram lines). This was unforseen prior to the election and the money had to come from somewhere. THIS IS THE REASON THAT THEY HAD TO CHANGE THEIR STANDING ON TOLLS.
You can blame Kennett for that!
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~Madness~ 
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Joined: 29 May 2001
Location: Melbourne, Vic, Au
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| Proud Pies wrote: | | eddiesmith wrote: | | Yet I seem to remember that Howard went to the polls saying if he is re elected then the GST will come in and the people were happy with it (Some of us alot happier than others ) unlike Bracksy and his 'No Tolls' promise yet suddenly the money disappeared very quickly and he had to turn it into a toll road now Rudd heading the same way with WorkChoices |
I have explained this to you before, but since you are obviously very thick, let me explain to you again just why the Tolls had to come in.
It all goes back to your Hawthorn President days of Jeffrey Kennett and the selling off of the Public Transport System and the contracts he put in place.
Both of the operators of the PUblic Transport system were given contracts which they could walkout of. M Trains did exactly that., They walked away leaving millions of dollars of debt to be picked up by the Bracks Government about a week after the election four years ago.
They didn't bail out M Trains, but they needed to put millions into keeping the lines that M Train ran (including tram lines). This was unforseen prior to the election and the money had to come from somewhere. THIS IS THE REASON THAT THEY HAD TO CHANGE THEIR STANDING ON TOLLS.
You can blame Kennett for that! |
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sherrife 
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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| Proud Pies wrote: | | eddiesmith wrote: | | Yet I seem to remember that Howard went to the polls saying if he is re elected then the GST will come in and the people were happy with it (Some of us alot happier than others ) unlike Bracksy and his 'No Tolls' promise yet suddenly the money disappeared very quickly and he had to turn it into a toll road now Rudd heading the same way with WorkChoices |
I have explained this to you before, but since you are obviously very thick, let me explain to you again just why the Tolls had to come in.
It all goes back to your Hawthorn President days of Jeffrey Kennett and the selling off of the Public Transport System and the contracts he put in place.
Both of the operators of the PUblic Transport system were given contracts which they could walkout of. M Trains did exactly that., They walked away leaving millions of dollars of debt to be picked up by the Bracks Government about a week after the election four years ago.
They didn't bail out M Trains, but they needed to put millions into keeping the lines that M Train ran (including tram lines). This was unforseen prior to the election and the money had to come from somewhere. THIS IS THE REASON THAT THEY HAD TO CHANGE THEIR STANDING ON TOLLS.
You can blame Kennett for that! |
But but but, its the... ALP.... everyone agrees that they're all lying scumbags... no no no, what we need are the honest, forthright liberals to take control, they'll put our country back on the straight and narrow.
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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But but but, its the... ALP.... everyone agrees that they're all lying scumbags... no no no, what we need are the honest, forthright liberals to take control, they'll put our country back on the straight and narrow. |
Well said Omar. 
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Joel 
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Well Remember the Election Promises Sometimes never happen |
Dave, that's not a great point to make.
I love how Rudd supporters try to justify taking TWO years to "untangle" legislation. What a load of crap!
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
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| Joel wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: |
Well Remember the Election Promises Sometimes never happen |
Dave, that's not a great point to make.
I love how Rudd supporters try to justify taking TWO years to "untangle" legislation. What a load of crap! |
It's going to be a very interesting couple of years Joel.
We have a booming economy, record employment and still (relatively) low interest rates. He's inherited a massive pile of cash (unlike what Keating bequeathed to the coalition) and he a clear run with the state govenments who are all Labor and don't want to rock his boat.
So basically, the deck is stacked thoroughly in his favour ATM. The only thing he doesn't have is control of the senate, but from July all he'll need is the support of the greens and the two independants to pass legislation so he's not blocked, he'll just have to do some serious sweet talking.
The foundation he's got to work with is as good if not better than any Prime Minister has ever inherited, so he has No Excuses if he stuffs up.
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nomadjack
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| There is a little something you may have heard of called the global economy Stui and something called sub-prime that is about to give it a good shake. With the US economy teetering on the brink of a recession and the current level of househild debt there is a very real chance of things turning ugly over the next 2-3 years. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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I quite aware of the global economy Nomad, although "Sub-prime" I've never heard of.
Yes, whatever happens in the USA is out of Rudd's control and some of the impact that a recession there would have on us is also out of his control. But not all of it.
My general intention regarding the "no excuses" was about what he has in his control. Unlike some people who would have happily blamed Howard if they woke up with a stiff neck, I think I'm a reasonable person.
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