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member34258
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Seems we are getting closer and closer to the USA in terms of using the legal system to solve all our problems.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22854949-661,00.html
| Quote: | | A TEENAGE student who can barely read or write is suing the Education Department for $300,000 for failing to teach him properly. |
| Quote: | | Mr Abela conceded the Education Department had made significant efforts to help his son, including paying for one-on-one tutoring and providing a laptop. |
| Quote: | | Mr Abela admitted Beau also refused to go to a special school in Donvale that could better cater to the teenager's needs -- because he did not feel capable of catching the two buses to travel there. |
The last quote is very interesting. So the boy felt unable to catch 2 buses to the specialist facility. Why did the parents not drive him there? Or did they expect the Department to lay on a specialized bus? |
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David 
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Common problem in this society - rather than looking for solutions to problems, we need people to blame.
In this case, it certainly sounds like the kid should have been sent to a special needs school. Aren't there still schools where kids his age can go, though?
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| member34258 wrote: | Seems we are getting closer and closer to the USA in terms of using the legal system to solve all our problems.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22854949-661,00.html
| Quote: | | A TEENAGE student who can barely read or write is suing the Education Department for $300,000 for failing to teach him properly. |
| Quote: | | Mr Abela conceded the Education Department had made significant efforts to help his son, including paying for one-on-one tutoring and providing a laptop. |
| Quote: | | Mr Abela admitted Beau also refused to go to a special school in Donvale that could better cater to the teenager's needs -- because he did not feel capable of catching the two buses to travel there. |
The last quote is very interesting. So the boy felt unable to catch 2 buses to the specialist facility. Why did the parents not drive him there? Or did they expect the Department to lay on a specialized bus? |
Plus with the Africans Blaming that the Cops are being Racist With Them. Just like the Yanks
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stui magpie 
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Joined: 03 May 2005
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| member34258 wrote: | Seems we are getting closer and closer to the USA in terms of using the legal system to solve all our problems.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22854949-661,00.html
| Quote: | | A TEENAGE student who can barely read or write is suing the Education Department for $300,000 for failing to teach him properly. |
| Quote: | | Mr Abela conceded the Education Department had made significant efforts to help his son, including paying for one-on-one tutoring and providing a laptop. |
| Quote: | | Mr Abela admitted Beau also refused to go to a special school in Donvale that could better cater to the teenager's needs -- because he did not feel capable of catching the two buses to travel there. |
The last quote is very interesting. So the boy felt unable to catch 2 buses to the specialist facility. Why did the parents not drive him there? Or did they expect the Department to lay on a specialized bus? |
I read that article this morning and a couple of things came to mind as well as what you've pointed out.
1. There's the old saying about being able to lead a horse to water. From the article, it doesn't appear that the kids has the best attitude toward trying to learn.
2. What the hell have the parents been doing? Did they read to him at home before he started school? Did they never bother to try to teach him basic maths or how to tell the time or these things at home or did they just dump him in front of the TV for years then expect school to work miracles?
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when are people going to take some responsibility of their own????
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John Wren 
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^^ took the words out of my mouth young lady. it just gets all too much for some people. what a disgrace.
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I'm currently tracking down 2 nuns from back at Sunday school so I can sue them.
They should've told me that daily browsing at free nude celebs dot com would be detrimental to my wellbeing.
Yes, I know there was no internet back then but if I can somehow decipher or manipulate some of the cryptic prophecies from 'the' book I'm certain that my team of highly paid QC's can conjure up something.
Not sure of what they can give me, perhaps a piece of the Vatican, a reseved car space or something
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You see, this just makes me sick!
My daughter is in Prep & for 4 nights a week all year she was bringing home 3 books & I helped her read them. Half an hour a night is all it took.
Education begins at home. How can this kid be 13/14 & not be able to read or count beyond 10? WTF is wrong wth parents these days? It seems the old man is trying to shift the blame elsewhere or wants this 300K to pay off his mortgage. And why did it take this long for him to notice? Something fishy is going on here....I can smell it!
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stui magpie
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The only valid point in the article, is the question why the kid kept getting put up to the next grade?
Did the school or teachers decide that if they couldn't teach him, they'd just flush him thru the system and out the other end?
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What a little turd this kid is, with that smug "poor me" innocent face he tries to put on.
Stui quite often teachers want to keep kids behind (my parents are teachers) but that is frought with issues as well; parents complain that they will be "socially isolated" as they will be removed from peers their own age. They know often they shouldn't be advanced but really for some it is not going to help being repeated. So at times they are damned if they do damned if they don't.
It's bloody pathetic how teachers are lumped with so much these days. Not only are they expected to teach them but are also expected to pick up on and solve every single social issue in the kids life. All for pissant pay. Quite often it in not the kid who is the main issue, but the parent who has an axe to grind being bitter to teachers in general, i'm sick of the crap my parents have had to go through. I know how hard they work and how good they are at their jobs.
It's apparent this kid needed special school and it's apparent the school has tried to help. The father needs to get his head out of his @rse and stop being such a money grubbing slime bag and think that perhaps education starts at home.
RANT OVER (sorry one issue that really gets to me)
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| stui magpie wrote: | The only valid point in the article, is the question why the kid kept getting put up to the next grade?
Did the school or teachers decide that if they couldn't teach him, they'd just flush him thru the system and out the other end? |
This is the way the education system works.
When was the last time anyone heard of a school with a low % passing rate.
If your local school did have a low % passing rate,
then I'm sure you would "look around" at other schools,
right? Right!
The education system is a joke and bloody corrupted.
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Jason
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| stui magpie wrote: | The only valid point in the article, is the question why the kid kept getting put up to the next grade?
Did the school or teachers decide that if they couldn't teach him, they'd just flush him thru the system and out the other end? |
He's 14 years old and still can't count past 10 should the teachers have decided to make him repeat grade 1 nine times?? This kid needed special schooling and it shouldn't have been a matter of what the kid wanted, it should've been a matter of the god damn parents GETTING him there whether he wanted to go OR NOT.
Oh and it's also worth mentioning that teachers these days are pretty much banned from telling parents if their kids are failing. All they can say in the worthless reporting system that the Education department uses is "not established". But in the end they can say "not established" every day of the kids schooling life but if the parents aren't going to pull their fingers out... |
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stui magpie
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I don't agree that the system is corrupted and do agree that (most) teachers work bloody hard at their jobs.
The grading system has become a joke. It's aimed at making sure no one can fail. To get any meaningful idea of how your kid is going at school, you need to carefully read the teachers comments.
As far a s VCEpassing rates, of course schools care about that. Kids who are doing VCE who are going to struggle, are often pulled aside and "encouraged" to do other things rather than sit their VCE and bring the school average down.
I had a good relationship with the teachers at my Kid's school but the impression I got (sadly) was that I was a minority. I was a parent who actually cared about my kids education and would not accept BS excuses for not doing homework or for buggerising around in class. The impression I got was that the teachers were pleasantly surprised to find a parent who didn't simply think that educating the kids was the schools job only.
As far as teachers being stuck between a rock and a hard place if a kid won't work and is failing, that's were the school principal should grow a set and face the parents. If a kid is failing despite additional assistance, the parents should be called in and told the kid is in danger of failing and therefore repeating. If the parenst kick up about stigma and social isolation, then they're free to take their child to a different school.
It's amazing how much the genuine threat of repeating will focus a kid who's not trying.
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| stui magpie wrote: | I don't agree that the system is corrupted and do agree that (most) teachers work bloody hard at their jobs.
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Ofcourse the teachers work hard, But you can only work with what you're given as tools.
A good conspirarcy is hard to prove. The schools have a very good pass rate. If the students are that clever , then they'd all go on and further educate themselves.
..but so many "less smarter folk" are the back bone of our country.
Why would anyone choose to be a loser, in lower paying employment?
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