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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
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| Dale61 wrote: | I read some time back that the building industry in Darwin is up in arms over this 457 visa caper.
Most of the workers on building sites up there were there only on 457 visas, and the locals were arcing up about it.
Not so much about the fact the ring-in's were working at cheaper rates, but moreso the fact that the ring-in's just couldn't comprehend Australian work sites practices, as well as the dodgy work being carried out.
If Gerry Hardly-Normal wants to fill his stores with 457 visa employees, so be it, as long as he reduces his prices to match. |
You mean like the "you 5 guys stand there and watch me pretend to work" practices I used to see at Spencer St Station every day?
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MultipleChoice
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The second tier system is OK if the workers imported do jobs that the locals are too lazt to do ro consider beneath them. Fruit Picking is an example of this.
It is not a bad idea at all. |
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spoljar 
Joined: 16 Mar 2004
Location: Lynbrook
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| MultipleChoice wrote: | | Thank God for capitalism as otherwise we would be pushing up the daisies or living in a gulag. |
I like the idea of dividing all the worlds wealth equally amongst everyone to ensure that even the lazy people that can't be bothered getting off their arses and doing something, are given their "fair share"
Wether they just spend it on Booze and Cigarettes as a priority over small things like food is beside the point! |
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Culprit 
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Port Melbourne
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| MultipleChoice wrote: | The second tier system is OK if the workers imported do jobs that the locals are too lazt to do ro consider beneath them. Fruit Picking is an example of this.
It is not a bad idea at all. |
Anyone who has done fruit picking has only done so out of desperation. You may wish to work for $5 an hour, I won't. It's nothing to do about being lazy. Bringing in cheap labour who will work for a bowl of rice is all about that. Paying them stuff all and making more profit as you can bet the end price in the shop is the same no matter what the costs. |
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MultipleChoice
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| Culprit wrote: | | MultipleChoice wrote: | The second tier system is OK if the workers imported do jobs that the locals are too lazt to do ro consider beneath them. Fruit Picking is an example of this.
It is not a bad idea at all. |
Anyone who has done fruit picking has only done so out of desperation. You may wish to work for $5 an hour, I won't. It's nothing to do about being lazy. Bringing in cheap labour who will work for a bowl of rice is all about that. Paying them stuff all and making more profit as you can bet the end price in the shop is the same no matter what the costs. |
They dont get paid $5 an hour, in the GV they get paid by the bin they pick. The more they work the more they get paid.
They can earn up to $400 a day in peak season.
But it is too hard for us Aussies. If they work in the industry at all they do so for a few days to get enough moeny to gamble, drink or smoke and shoot through. Entirely unreliable but good union fodder.
Those starting out jump at the opportunity.
And on another point, they will be much rejoicing by some on the death today of another capitalist knob who employed 100s of people. |
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Alec. J. Hidell
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| MultipleChoice wrote: | | Thank God for capitalism as otherwise we would be pushing up the daisies or living in a gulag. |
Gulags? There were in Russia.
A totalitarian state I believe.
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MultipleChoice
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| Frank Stone wrote: | | MultipleChoice wrote: | | Thank God for capitalism as otherwise we would be pushing up the daisies or living in a gulag. |
Gulags? There were in Russia.
A totalitarian state I believe. |
Yes, thankfully (in Russia) and regrettably. The anti-capitalist nirvana. |
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stui magpie
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Frank, meet multi ; multi meet frank.
I'm sure you 2 have met before.
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MultipleChoice
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| I have no idea what you are on about, unless you have the same view about capitalists as sherife. |
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stui magpie
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Careful there, you nearly gave Sherrife a coniption. The mere thought that he and I shared political ideology could have him calling for the crash cart.  
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sherrife 
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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| stui magpie wrote: | | Careful there, you nearly gave Sherrife a coniption. The mere thought that he and I shared political ideology could have him calling for the crash cart. |
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Alec. J. Hidell
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| stui magpie wrote: | Frank, meet multi ; multi meet frank.
I'm sure you 2 have met before. |
Can't say as I have, but Multi, seems like an interesting fellow, worth debating
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Proud Pies 
Joined: 22 Feb 2003
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| MultipleChoice wrote: | | And on another point, they will be much rejoicing by some on the death today of another capitalist knob who employed 100s of people. |
if your referring above to John Ilhan I find your comment quite repulsive. He may have been a self made millionaire and employed hundreds of staff, but he also gave back to the community in many ways, mainly financial.
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Dale61
You can't have manslaughter without laughter.
Joined: 17 Apr 2002
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| MultipleChoice wrote: | | And on another point, they will be much rejoicing by some on the death today of another capitalist knob who employed 100s of people. |
Well, that comment certainly highlighted your real identity.
I suppose you feel the same way about all the other club's sponsors as well. I bet you won't be offering any time soon to replace all the sponsorship dollars with money from your own pocket.
Nah, I didn't think so.
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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| MultipleChoice wrote: | | ]And on another point, they will be much rejoicing by some on the death today of another capitalist knob who employed 100s of people. |
Guys he was being sarcastic.
Actually he's totally wrong for correlating my hatred for capitalism with hatred for individual people. I wouldn't wish anybody dead, unless they're fighting a bloody counter-revolution.
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