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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:18 pm
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The Prototype wrote:
I wasn't able to go to my nan's funeral today, while that was a little upsetting what really pisses me off is the way Laura's been treated at work. She's so upset right now, and it's hard to find a way to cheer her up right now knowing she has to work there tomorrow.

Two bad days in a row for her. Sad Just hard finding a new job around.


I find it best to just get on with what I have to do with MY JOB and ignore the drama going on around me. I challenged one of my trouble makers when after finding out she was partnered up with me let out a sigh of disappointment with a "lets just get the job done without the games OK" in front of everyone. Haven't had a drama since!

Sorry to hear about missing the funeral but it sounds like you are at ease with that disappointing situation.
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Question, if you were struggling to get enough fall between where the water entered the downpipe from the gutter, and where it entered the tank, did you consider lowering the entry point to the tank by cutting a hole in it?


Yes, but that would reduce the capacity and seriously annoy the "assistant". Fair enough. It's not really a great idea to go cutting hole in a practically new 23,000 litre water tank - the damn things are about three thousand dollars a pop so you don't waste them!

We did move the tank though. I towed it away with a sling and a tractor, then dug a bloody great big hole by hand (not a suitable place to do it with machinery, though I did at least get to shovel spoil direct into the front-end loader rather than double-handle it) and finally winched it back again. (A bit tricky that last bit.) But the hole is only just barely deep enough and we need to be very economical with our fall. Could we have dug it deeper still? Possibly, though sooner or later you hit rock in this country and I'm damned if I'm digging through bassalt! As it stands, we were lucky not to strike any big ones as far down as we went. I figured that it would be easier to fudge the plumbing than dig it any deeper. Besides, it's already going to be awkward getting at the outlet plumbing, I don't want it any further below ground level. The last 5000 litres will probably need to be pumped out if we ever use them. but that's the point with tank water, you don't ever want to get close to the bottom of your last tank. If those 5000 litres are all we have left on the property, I'll rig a pump and be grateful there is still something to use it for!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:40 pm
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^

Fair call, 23,000 litres is a fair sized tank. You covered off my other unwritten question "can you lower the tank", I'll take it from the size of the tank that raising the shed isn't a practical option so I get your dilemma.

If all else had of failed, cutting a hole in the side of the tank to create a new entry may be untidy and may lower the capacity(not by a lot) but is still a valid option.

have you hung the feeder pipe in the air or put them below ground out of the road?

Edit.

Dumb question No. 2, did you make sure that the place the tank is resting on has a bed of sand or something to absorb the weight so it's not sitting on rock? 23,000 litres is 23 tonne of water. If the base isn't stable and there's bit of sharp rock, you're asking for a tank puncture at the bottom.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:17 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
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Err Stui, you'll need more than a CFA masterkey to pry Tannins assistant (the lovely miss B.) away from his work at hand.


Not helping. And I'd be very disinclined to apply a CFA master key to miss B. She sounds like quite a nice person apart from her micromanaging tendencies and choices in partners Razz

(A CFA masterkey is aka a 16 pound sledge hammer Wink )


Stui old son.
Your talking about what the cock-roachs call a RFS master key.

I'm a Mexican and this is what we call a CFA master Key.


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OK, that would work too, and maybe even more fun. I'd still be disinclined to use it on Miss b though Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:28 pm
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We in 100% agreement!

Last time I was there she said drop by anytime 3.
(I won't because I don't have her number and I like to ring before I spring myself on ppl)
I will one day but only when it is clearly understood that I am a bloke and as far as I am concerned what goes on in the shed, stays in shed.
(Like a few cars I owned).
No, it will be tea and cakes, talk of all things that have nothing to with spouting or work needing to be done or nothing!!!!
Sorry Tannin, but a bloke needs to take a stand once in a while.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:50 pm
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1061 wrote:
I find it best to just get on with what I have to do with MY JOB and ignore the drama going on around me. I challenged one of my trouble makers when after finding out she was partnered up with me let out a sigh of disappointment with a "lets just get the job done without the games OK" in front of everyone. Haven't had a drama since!

Sorry to hear about missing the funeral but it sounds like you are at ease with that disappointing situation.


Yeah I had that as well at a job once, sadly for her, her manager was being horrible today and was yesterday as well. Took them almost a month to pay her for the day she worked once as well. But hopefully she can get a better job and things will be better.

Yeah, I thought it was better my uncle, aunts and dad went to say their own goodbyes. Also someone needed to look after the younger siblings who weren't well, and I did that so its all good.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:10 pm
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3.14159 wrote:
We in 100% agreement!

Last time I was there she said drop by anytime 3.
(I won't because I don't have her number and I like to ring before I spring myself on ppl)
I will one day but only when it is clearly understood that I am a bloke and as far as I am concerned what goes on in the shed, stays in shed.
(Like a few cars I owned).
No, it will be tea and cakes, talk of all things that have nothing to with spouting or work needing to be done or nothing!!!!
Sorry Tannin, but a bloke needs to take a stand once in a while.


One of these days I'm coming to pick you up and we'll rock over together. If we can't make her head explode between the two of us, she's a keeper. Wink Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:13 pm
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Not a dumb question at all, Stui. Yes. A bed of glutenous jelly-like mud, actually, which will set hard as concrete come the summer, but that shouldn't matter so long as it's flat. (Which it is.)

We are on Sunday soil, an expression you'll understand from experience but for the urbanites here, it means soil that is so soft and jelly-like after rain that you can't get machinery onto it on Saturday, but dries out and is beautiful to work on Sunday, then turns into concrete on Monday such that you can't get a tool (such as a plough or a shovel) into it. (It actually takes weeks to transition, of course, and spends most of its time in the concrete phase, but it really does have three completely different personalities. All to do with particle size, soil chemistry and low plant matter content. In the big wet year when I was fencing, I could very nearly put star posts in by hand, and I got the 4WD tractor bogged more than once. Lost a few gumboots too. Wink

Feeder pipes are in the air. Won't matter in this case 'coz the tank is behind the shed (as you look at things from the house) and closeish to the wall - just enough space to get the ride-on mower through. Plenty of headroom.

I actually did raise the shed, or at least some of it, using shims on top of the rafters. Just enough to get some fall in the right direction. More than that and I'd have to extend the steel post uprights, and I'm no damn good at welding.

(Come to think of it, it's entirely possible that I'm actually a naturally talented, highly skilled world championship standard welder, but I can't say for sure because I've never tried it. Possibly I'm also a born genius at brain surgery but no-one has noticed yet 'coz I mostly only pick up a knife to carve the chicken. Who can say? One of life's little mysteries.)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:25 pm
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hah. I grew up used to the grey clay in Tocumwal. Didn't matter how much water came down from the sky, it skated off the surface. You'd need a week of solid slow soaking rain to penetrate 2 inches into the ground. Any deeper than that......................that shit was hard. I managed to break a few mattock handles in my day, much to Dad's chagrin.

Great fun learning to drive though. If you couldn't get a car out sideways on a dirt road (basically packed clay with a sand topping) you really weren't trying. Razz

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stui magpie wrote:
3.14159 wrote:
We in 100% agreement!

Last time I was there she said drop by anytime 3.
(I won't because I don't have her number and I like to ring before I spring myself on ppl)
I will one day but only when it is clearly understood that I am a bloke and as far as I am concerned what goes on in the shed, stays in shed.
(Like a few cars I owned).
No, it will be tea and cakes, talk of all things that have nothing to with spouting or work needing to be done or nothing!!!!
Sorry Tannin, but a bloke needs to take a stand once in a while.


One of these days I'm coming to pick you up and we'll rock over together. If we can't make her head explode between the two of us, she's a keeper. Wink Razz


Take a peek outside the window before you embark on your task - TP and I will be there watching and listening - I am woman hear me roar - be afraid boys Wink Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:42 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
3.14159 wrote:
We in 100% agreement!

Last time I was there she said drop by anytime 3.
(I won't because I don't have her number and I like to ring before I spring myself on ppl)
I will one day but only when it is clearly understood that I am a bloke and as far as I am concerned what goes on in the shed, stays in shed.
(Like a few cars I owned).
No, it will be tea and cakes, talk of all things that have nothing to with spouting or work needing to be done or nothing!!!!
Sorry Tannin, but a bloke needs to take a stand once in a while.


One of these days I'm coming to pick you up and we'll rock over together. If we can't make her head explode between the two of us, she's a keeper. Wink Razz


Take a peek outside the window before you embark on your task - TP and I will be there watching and listening - I am woman hear me roar - be afraid boys Wink Razz



That takes care of tannin



And between that, me and 3.1etc, sorry miss b.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:57 pm
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The Prototype wrote:
1061 wrote:
I find it best to just get on with what I have to do with MY JOB and ignore the drama going on around me. I challenged one of my trouble makers when after finding out she was partnered up with me let out a sigh of disappointment with a "lets just get the job done without the games OK" in front of everyone. Haven't had a drama since!

Sorry to hear about missing the funeral but it sounds like you are at ease with that disappointing situation.


Yeah I had that as well at a job once, sadly for her, her manager was being horrible today and was yesterday as well. Took them almost a month to pay her for the day she worked once as well. But hopefully she can get a better job and things will be better.

Yeah, I thought it was better my uncle, aunts and dad went to say their own goodbyes. Also someone needed to look after the younger siblings who weren't well, and I did that so its all good.


That was nice of you. Was wondering how it was going. Hugs honey. Xx

No. 2 how can they take a month to pay her? Is this a private enterprise? She get paid cash in hand? What exactly are they doing? Verbal crap or games? Life is far to short to hate your job, hopefully she can either find a way to fix things, or find a new job, soon. Cheers

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:59 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
Morrigu wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
3.14159 wrote:
We in 100% agreement!

Last time I was there she said drop by anytime 3.
(I won't because I don't have her number and I like to ring before I spring myself on ppl)
I will one day but only when it is clearly understood that I am a bloke and as far as I am concerned what goes on in the shed, stays in shed.
(Like a few cars I owned).
No, it will be tea and cakes, talk of all things that have nothing to with spouting or work needing to be done or nothing!!!!
Sorry Tannin, but a bloke needs to take a stand once in a while.


One of these days I'm coming to pick you up and we'll rock over together. If we can't make her head explode between the two of us, she's a keeper. Wink Razz


Take a peek outside the window before you embark on your task - TP and I will be there watching and listening - I am woman hear me roar - be afraid boys Wink Razz



That takes care of tannin



And between that, me and 3.1etc, sorry miss b.



Ok so quite clearly, I'm not the one drinking tonight?

Or maybe I am and I'm so tired I forgot?

Is that Will?

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Tannin wrote:
Not a dumb question at all, Stui. Yes. A bed of glutenous jelly-like mud, actually, which will set hard as concrete come the summer, but that shouldn't matter so long as it's flat. (Which it is.)

We are on Sunday soil, an expression you'll understand from experience but for the urbanites here, it means soil that is so soft and jelly-like after rain that you can't get machinery onto it on Saturday, but dries out and is beautiful to work on Sunday, then turns into concrete on Monday such that you can't get a tool (such as a plough or a shovel) into it. (It actually takes weeks to transition, of course, and spends most of its time in the concrete phase, but it really does have three completely different personalities. All to do with particle size, soil chemistry and low plant matter content. In the big wet year when I was fencing, I could very nearly put star posts in by hand, and I got the 4WD tractor bogged more than once. Lost a few gumboots too. Wink

Feeder pipes are in the air. Won't matter in this case 'coz the tank is behind the shed (as you look at things from the house) and closeish to the wall - just enough space to get the ride-on mower through. Plenty of headroom.

I actually did raise the shed, or at least some of it, using shims on top of the rafters. Just enough to get some fall in the right direction. More than that and I'd have to extend the steel post uprights, and I'm no damn good at welding.

(Come to think of it, it's entirely possible that I'm actually a naturally talented, highly skilled world championship standard welder, but I can't say for sure because I've never tried it. Possibly I'm also a born genius at brain surgery but no-one has noticed yet 'coz I mostly only pick up a knife to carve the chicken. Who can say? One of life's little mysteries.)


He maybe a natural bornn talent at something but what he hasn't told in this stuff about the shed is all B. Really wanted was for Tannin to put some oil on the shed door because she was having trouble opening it by herself.
He sketcked out full plans on how to best oil the hinges when he noticed it was starting to lean to right.
Tannin decided he would do something about and we have had this saga ever since... Sorry Tony.
I know I said what happens in the shed etc but to be fair not much did go on in shed (the broken spout was outside) and at some stage I have to consider that I hadn't asked how B.s feels trusting you to do her guttering.
(I collect chainsaws and old axes but I'm a rusted on feminist at heart).
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