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Work(NO)choices. Howards law screws workers again

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:27 pm
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/items/200705/1937471.htm?goulburnmurray

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Under the contract they will be paid $26,000 a year to work a 38-hour a week.

But it requires them to be available all the time, with no pay for additional hours worked.

Managers will also need permission to leave the site if they need to.


The managers are required to be on call 24/7. They get no overtime, allowances etc. They are paid for only 38 hours no matter what they work.
This equates to $2.76 per hour.
Plus, they have to ring head office if they want to go to the footy!
Anyone care to defend/justify this one?

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:29 pm
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Well, considering they live on site so they don't have to travel and it doesn't say how much rent they have to pay so I assume it's minimal..............................

Awwww who the &*( am I kidding. $26k pa for 24hr on call, sucks big time. Can't defend the employer there.

It doesn't say what kind of contract they're on tho. If there's no Award covering the roles and they're on common law contracts, then it's nothing to do with Workchoices. Just a &*( greedy employer.

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:06 am
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New employer stui, as these homes have been taken over after the previous investment house decided to off-load them.
Workchoices allows this new offer to occur as they are considered to have "changed employment" even though they physically haven't. Workchoices protects your current rates/conditions, but does not if you are considered to have changed employment.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:30 am
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member34258 wrote:
New employer stui, as these homes have been taken over after the previous investment house decided to off-load them.
Workchoices allows this new offer to occur as they are considered to have "changed employment" even though they physically haven't. Workchoices protects your current rates/conditions, but does not if you are considered to have changed employment.


Yeah, pre workchoices the test for whether there was a "transmission of business" when moving work from one employer to another is tougher. Generally though, your employment contract doesn't transmit to a new employer although your conditions of employment may. In the situation of the work moving from one employer to the other, you would generally be required to either resign from the 1st employer and commence employment with the new employer or be retrenched from he first employer. That was the case prior to workchoices anyway.

The transmission of business is (in a nutshell) when the work is deemed to be the same work and it is determined by the AIRC that the conditions of employment with the first employer transmit to the second employer. There's lots of clauses and detail around how it hapens and for how long and who it applies to etc.

Without knowing what the details of their employment arrangement was with the first employer and having a direct comparison with the new ones offered, it's really hard to defintively say they're being screwed over but on the surface, it's not a good look.

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:34 am
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What specifically brings in a nutshell when the work is deemed to be the same work and it is determined by the AIRC that the conditions of employment with the first employer transmit to the second employer to mind? Are we still talking about PUSHtransmission of business?
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:26 pm
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HAL, I thought you were apolitical?
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I haven't heard anything like that before: member34258 said I you thought me were apolitical.
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