Abortion..For and Against ?

[Proud Pies]

as i said earlier...... this is a contentious and emotive subject and one does wonder why the subject was started, particularly if your unable to have an opinion.

[magpiesgirl]

The problem with a debate like this is that people that have been personally affected or involved in abortion are too personally connected to it to be able to give an opinion that isnt personal and emotional without incriminating themselves and leaving themselves open for ridicule or prejeduce.

[Proud Pies]

[lambs brains for tea]

As a male I strongly believe it is not up to us one way or another.

[Morrigu]

I believe that it all comes down to when you actually believe that a life begins and that decision will be very different depending on how you were raised, religious influences your life experiences and the values you have at that particular point in your life

All will come into play when such a decision needs to be made but regardless of our so called liberated society there remains a stigma attached to making such a decision. Yes there are excellent counselling services available and certain �steps� that woman must go though before the �procedure� but there is still secrecy about the whole thing that unfortunately often results in significant mental health issues for women further down the track.

Having never been able to have children I can�t know what I do if faced with this decision. However I do know that I would not judge another who made this decision, some people seem to think it as a decision made easily � from my professional experience I would say bollocks!

My brother is a single dad and has been since his daughter was 3 months old (she is now nearly 10) � the mother is still alive but has made the choice not to have any active part in her daughter�s life. So on the basis of the woman has ultimate right over her body if she had decided to abort then he would have had no say and would today not be the great dad he is today?

What I cannot tolerate is the holier than now shove their opinion down your throat pro-lifers who accost me when entering a women�s clinic I attend. They thrust ultrasounds at me and accuse me of being a �murderer� � hmmm hormone replacement kills who again??? (Having said that not having same may result in killing of some-one )


We have had many a similar long and at times heated discussion in the ICU when we are faced with �turning off� life support � when is some-one actually dead � when we turn off the machines and breathing stops? When there is what % of brain activity?

Which when considering medical intervention - brings us back to the original question � when does a life begin?

[joffa corfe]

[joffa corfe]

[magpiesgirl]

[Dr Alf Andrews]

[leelee]

i think it is a personal preference. no-body except the person who is pregnant should have a right to decide what happens to themselves and their fetus.

I don't believe a baby is truly a human being until it has its first lungfull of air, but that said, it is just MY opinion.

[Joel]

[Proud Pies]

well apparently I've ruined the debate due to my insistent "silliness" in advising Joffa of the above.

So, feel free to continue on with the debate, even though I'm not the self proclaimed 'Chairman' of the debate.

My comments and opinions expressed earlier stand.

[Morrigu]

[Proud Pies]

[Pa Marmo]

It was a request, not a demand.