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Joel 
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| Proud Pies wrote: | | eddiesmith wrote: | GOD help us all if Rudd becomes prime minister  |
GOD Help us if he doesn't! |
Have to disagree there. But that is fine, and we are all allowed to have our opinions. |
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Proud Pies 
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Location: Knox-ish
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| Joel wrote: | | Proud Pies wrote: | | eddiesmith wrote: | | GOD help us all if Rudd becomes prime minister |
GOD Help us if he doesn't! |
Have to disagree there. But that is fine, and we are all allowed to have our opinions. |
Is that our democratic right?
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Culprit 
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I just choked on my lunch. Now Downer and Howard are going on about how they sought his release and did a deal with Cheeney to get him back in Australia and how unfair it was to Hicks. They sat on their hands for five years until the so called "public opinion" changed and it was a vote winner to get him back.
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eddiesmith 
Lets get ready to Rumble
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So they are trying to gain votes by claiming they brought a terrorist back to Australia instead of letting the Americans kill him? How does that work?
What stupid public opinion decided it was in their best interests to support a terrorist?
This polling data must be taken from those moron protest groups |
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Culprit
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Location: Port Melbourne
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| eddiesmith wrote: | So they are trying to gain votes by claiming they brought a terrorist back to Australia instead of letting the Americans kill him? How does that work?
What stupid public opinion decided it was in their best interests to support a terrorist?
This polling data must be taken from those moron protest groups |
Moron Protest groups? Maybe they are leftovers from protesting against our involvement in Vietnam.
Hicks was held without trial for over 5 years, guilty or not guilty I could not care and it is totally irrelevant. Public opinion change on the trial delays eddiesmith. Now it's seen as a vote winner like his so called Aboriginal reconciliation vote grabber so they use it. Supporting a terrorist is drawing a long bow.  |
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David 
I dare you to try
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Location: Andromeda
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| Culprit wrote: | | They sat on their hands for five years until the so called "public opinion" changed and it was a vote winner to get him back. |
yep. Hoorah for politics 
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sherrife 
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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| David wrote: | | Culprit wrote: | | They sat on their hands for five years until the so called "public opinion" changed and it was a vote winner to get him back. |
yep. Hoorah for politics |
Remember, this is only parliamentary politics.
Given your (totally understandable) cynicism maybe it's time you checked out some other political systems?
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David
I dare you to try
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Anarchy for the... AU?
I dunno. In all seriousness, I'm not aware of too many countries in the world I'd rather live in than Australia, despite all the bullshit we have to put up with. I'm concerned that political systems that are based on an idealist view of human nature (such as communism*) are destined to fail.
*please don't hurt me. I know that I don't know much about communism, or anarchism for that matter, but this is just the impression I get from my limited understanding of it. And, once again, for all the crap we have to put up with, I've gotta say... Australia really isn't that bad...
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nomadjack
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| One wonderful thing about democracy is that we get exactly the government we deserve. |
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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| David wrote: | Anarchy for the... AU?
I dunno. In all seriousness, I'm not aware of too many countries in the world I'd rather live in than Australia, despite all the bullshit we have to put up with. I'm concerned that political systems that are based on an idealist view of human nature (such as communism*) are destined to fail.
*please don't hurt me. I know that I don't know much about communism, or anarchism for that matter, but this is just the impression I get from my limited understanding of it. And, once again, for all the crap we have to put up with, I've gotta say... Australia really isn't that bad... |
Just f@#%ing read instead of continuing to spout soundbites about ideologies and issues you know nothing about.
And you're right, there probably aren't many better systems in the world than ours (barring the Scandinavian area), but that's not what i'm talking about. I'm talking about actually going one better.I'm sure back in the feudal era peasants were delighted to not be slaves... It doesn't follow at all that they should have stopped there.
Better =/ best.
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism#Anarchist_communism
A good introduction to what i believe, even though it isn't communism (let alone your ignorant interpretation of communism).
At least spend 10 seconds reading that tiny stub before attempting to dismiss what i believe in based on a flawed premise which i doesn't actually need.
Anarcho-syndicalism is also pretty relevant, but i get the vibe that it's more of a method for revolutionary action as opposed to an ideology.
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David
I dare you to try
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Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!
Lol, Omar, stop corrupting my ignorance! I liked my soundbites 
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noddy, 
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| looks great sherrife. now we've just got to get 6.6 billion people to agree on it. |
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nomadjack
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| noddy, wrote: | | looks great sherrife. now we've just got to get 6.6 billion people to agree on it. |
Doh! |
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