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Pants & Rowdy 



Joined: 31 Aug 2004


PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:23 pm
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I dont know if many caught the dailies today but Shaw 'demanded' an apology for Eddie's 'rat infested' remark during his coaching tenure. Realising the issue is growing a little old I felt the need to vent with some of the misgivings Ive seen come through on the radio and dailies, which have most supporting Shaw's stance because most of the opinion is coming from other 'collegues' in the media.

Shaw firmly believes his media committments give him the percieved right to mouth off indiscriminantly about anything to do with the pies irrespective of facts.He manipulates fact to suit and discredit Mcguire and Malthouse.

A case in point was the fact Shaw stated that Kevin & Bob Rose have been publicly denigrated by the 'rat infested' remark!! Well talk about appealling to emotion bringing in the Rose legend into the argument to defer the true intended target of the remark...Shaws coaching!!!..Cheap and nasty way of being argumentative Shaw!!! but if u do want to bring it down to that Iam fairly 'Shaw' that during the late nineties we were making record losses and had an accounting system in place which painted a rosy picture when in fact we couldnt pay for plastic cups in the coffee room.

If anything with respect to sentiment and the 'Rose' name, Shaw coached us a year too long and perhaps KRose being a Collingwood man thru and thru didn't want to publicly humiliate a 'former' favorite son by axing him. Eddie Mcguire and his reformist mantra came in and swept up and brought a contracted proven malthouse to our door to clean up the mess that was Shaw's coaching.
If Shaw is fairdinkum and he alluded to it in the paper today, he has McGuire to thank for the smooth transition from coaching to media using MCguire industry contacts to get work. This genorosity is certainly haunting Ed.

As impartial and unbiased as Shaw thinks he is in the court of public opinion he should look at two of his contemporaries in T Lane and R Walls who only have positive things to say about Carlton. If u listen to Walls talk about Carlton at the minute u'd think they are a premiership chance this year.if Walls was fairdinkum he'd be wanting blood, Carlton begging AFL for cash and the like but u dont hear boo from him.
If Shaw could only take a leaf and , yep Iam asking him for some favorably partial publicity maybey he'd start winning over some of the people who worshiped him as a player. Instead he is quoted in the paper saying he feels vindicated that by Taz & Johno playing proves nepotism. Smacks of Brayden getting flicked and perhaps some bitter resentment. Perhaps he expected the same for Brayden...a walk up start!!

Somehow I dont think he even cares what us' worshippers' think of him now that he is a media man and carving a niche bagging the team he spilt blood for.

Keep up the good work Shawy and as for this feud destabilising the side as u quote Buckley in the paper today and mentioned on 3AW, cmon this was your intention from day one. I hope others see it. U'd love the place to fall apart!!

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Robert Walls (not really) 



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:31 pm
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Collingwood always eat their own, it is part of our charm as a football club.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:38 pm
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Robert Walls (not really) wrote:
Collingwood always eat their own, it is part of our charm as a football club.


'our'???
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Cam Capricorn

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:39 pm
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Hmm maybe this is the start of Shawgate.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:40 pm
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Great post P&R.
It maybe seems the real Robert Walls seems to really play on Shawy's need for recognition, and baits him to keep laying the boots in.
Don't know if thats simply to entertain himself, or if he doesnt like Shawy.

Shawy exposing himself so publically has to be a good thing for the club. Opposing himself so much to the Maguire/Malthouse decision making has clearly demonstrated the bitter soul that is lying within. Only blind freddy couldnt see that now.

Shape up quick Shawy.
Piddle off Wallsy.

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DB 



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:42 pm
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In a hundred years time, what is Tony Shaw going to be remembered for?

An absolute Collingwood legend? Or a media man with a little Caesar complex?

Shawy, you are indeed a Collingwood legend of the highest order...

...start acting like one.
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nomadjack 



Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:43 pm
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Yeah, but he's kind of got a point hasn't he Rowdy. You can't on the one hand slag off about the shitty culture of the place and then pretend that the criticism is directed solely at the coach. By implication if you are criticising the entire culture which Ed was, then you are also criticising the board which presided over it, and the staff involved in the day to day operation of the club.

Also yet to see anyone refute Shaw's claim that discipline was tightly enforced and that anyone who breached team rules was moved on. Not defending Shaw's coaching record here, but is there any evidence that discipline under him was any more of a problem than it is now? If there is, fair enough, but I'd like to here/see it.

Ed, Mick and Swannee have been fantastic for the club, but I think Ed was a bit heavy on the blow torch this time and was counterproductive.

As for Shaw being happy to see the club fall apart. That's just a ridiculous comment. You reckon you love the club - how much do you think you'd love it if you spent 300+ games playing for it, many with your brothers, and many as captain. Not to mention coaching and watching you son and nephew. Yes he is critical sometimes, and yes a lot of what he writes about the club is shit. But maybe he also hits close to the bone sometimes? Either way, don't presume to love the club more than him. You've never bled for it.
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Cathalyst 



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:53 pm
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Shaw told the truth... the first clue was Eddie getting so upset... the second clue was Eddie getting spanked in their confrontation on radio
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Robert Walls (not really) 



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:59 pm
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And the Third Clue was found in the ancient lost city of the Aztecs...

Where it was written on a large scroll from a race of extraterrestrial travellers,

The Collingwood football club will always be interpreted as imploding,

Because it sells newspapers.

lets face it the Victorian teams are all slowly falling away,

what else is there to write about in this small state of non-performing football teams.

We used to own football in this state, now we watch it go bye.

No Preliminary Finals at the MCG again this year for the poor old girl and no one will batter an eye lid. Crying or Very sad
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Lone Ranger 



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:04 pm
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Shaw was perfectly entitled to make comments about Tarrant based on info that is public knowledge. Where he crossed the line was saying stuff he reckoned was "inside information" . Apart from putting his nephews in an awkward position, if you truly have inside information, you DO NOT use it against your own club. Thats why Ed was so angry.
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Morrigu Capricorn



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:37 am
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Cathalyst wrote:
Shaw told the truth... the first clue was Eddie getting so upset... the second clue was Eddie getting spanked in their confrontation on radio


And the third clue may have been a calculated response from Ed that got the media talking talking about their spat as oppposed to writing about Taz, Benny and the players before the game Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:28 am
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cathalyst and RWNR would be to stupid to work that out b4e. Two of the dumbest bastards ive seen on a fan site ever.
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