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Culprit Cancer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:53 pm
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Israel can do what it wishes and the world stands by and does nothing.

Both sides kill innocent people in this conflict and Israel can do as it pleases and all we hear is the condemnation of the Palestine Government.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:10 pm
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It's funny then that it always seems to be the Palestinians who attack first. The Israelis simply retaliate.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:13 pm
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David from Canberra wrote:
It's funny then that it always seems to be the Palestinians who attack first. The Israelis simply retaliate.



We have one side with small arms & suicide bombers up against planes and tanks. They are both guilty of waging war and it will continue while we all stand by and only condemn one side.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:35 pm
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I don't really buy the line that the Palestinians are the little guys standing up to the Israeli bullies. Look at where Israel is positioned on the map, compared to all the massive Islamic countries, of which only two (Syria and Egypt) are not still officially "at war" with Israel. Many of these countries, and the Palestinians too, wish for nothing more than the total eradication of Israel, essentially another holocaust.
I will however ask you this. If the Palestinians never attacked Israeli civilians, would the Israeli government respond so violently? Whereas we will have weeks, even months of peace before a Palestinian suicide bomber suddenly attacks. If anything, I think the Israeli government deserves more international support.
I am not saying that the Israeli government is innocent, obviously. Undoubtedly they have committed acts that they should be ashamed of. All the same, just because both sides have committed violence does not mean they are equally wrong.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:45 pm
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They both are guilty. Killing people for whatever reason should be condemned and no one condemns Israel. They have killed just as many innocent people as the Palestinians. The difference is they say it’s a military operation and collateral damage. The Palestinians then walk into a bus and kill many innocent people on their way to paradise with a suicide bomb.

The world has an obligation to condemn both parties yet they don’t.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:31 pm
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The thing is, most (if not all) of the Israeli attacks are directed at the leaders of the terrorist organizations that sponsor these suicide bombers, whereas the suicide bombers just kill random civilians.
You'd have to be crazy to live in Israel right now, that's for sure.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:35 pm
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David from Canberra wrote:
The thing is, most (if not all) of the Israeli attacks are directed at the leaders of the terrorist organizations that sponsor these suicide bombers, whereas the suicide bombers just kill random civilians.
You'd have to be crazy to live in Israel right now, that's for sure.


Israel still kills civilians no matter what spin you or they put on it.

Why you would want to live there beats me and I agree with that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:51 pm
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"The thing is, most (if not all) of the Israeli attacks are directed at the leaders of the terrorist organizations that sponsor these suicide bombers,"

David, maybe you could explain why Israeli forces knocked out that power station, cutting off electricity to many thousands of families ?

From CBS News: "No deaths or injuries were reported in the Israeli actions so far. But the warplanes knocked out Gaza's electric power plant, raising the specter of a humanitarian crisis. The Hamas-led government warned of “epidemics and health disasters” because of damaged water pipes to central Gaza and the lack of power to pump water.

Gaza City is one of the most densely populated cities on the planet and hundreds of thousands of people are living in the dark, reports CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar."

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:02 pm
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David from Canberra wrote:
The thing is, most (if not all) of the Israeli attacks are directed at the leaders of the terrorist organizations that sponsor these suicide bombers, whereas the suicide bombers just kill random civilians.


an people spending a afternoon on the beach qualify as leaders of terrorist organisation.

Let's not mention fly pasts at over mach 1 every 15 minutes every night to create a sonic boom so no one sleeps in Gaza.

The Israeli's may be the lesser of two evils, but it doesn't make em saints either.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:08 pm
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Agree with you Dave. The whole thing is a sad never ending cycle.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:10 pm
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Any links to the articles? As I find it hard to believe that Israel would target innocent civilians. They have no reason to.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:15 pm
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David from Canberra wrote:
Any links to the articles? As I find it hard to believe that Israel would target innocent civilians. They have no reason to.



The media we read and hear from I would suggest are pro Israel.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:24 pm
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Amazing that the United States never sanction Israel over any of their strikes.

America is run by big business........and most of those in big business in that country are Jewish!

I'm not saying I have anything against Jewish people, i went out with a Jewish guy for 3 years.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:26 pm
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Proud Pies wrote:
Amazing that the United States never sanction Israel over any of their strikes.

America is run by big business........and most of those in big business in that country are Jewish!

I'm not saying I have anything against Jewish people, i went out with a Jewish guy for 3 years.


You forgot to add that approx 70% of the US Government are Jewish.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:28 pm
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Proud Pies wrote:
Amazing that the United States never sanction Israel over any of their strikes.

America is run by big business........and most of those in big business in that country are Jewish!

I'm not saying I have anything against Jewish people, i went out with a Jewish guy for 3 years.


You forgot to add that approx 70% of the US Government are Jewish.


oh silly me! lol

and that would be a conservative estimate.....


I always find it funny, how in many films/sitcoms some of the people are Jewish (Will and Grace comes to mind) but they always celebrate Christmas.

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