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richo
Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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I read today the Dockers are considering trading Troy Simmonds as they may need more room in their salary cap due to Josh Carr coming over from chokesville. Simmonds would make a great key forward/back up ruckman. Who would we need to trade to get him and why wouldn't we want him?
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Joel 
Joined: 23 Mar 1999
Location: Mornington Peninsula
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richo
Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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Here are some stats on Troy Simmonds
Height 196cm
Weight: 97kg
Recruited From: Box Hill/Melbourne
Debut: 1999
Date of Birth: 13 July 1978
This season he took over 90 marks in 22 games and kicked around 35 goals, he also had quite a few hitouts.
"One of the team’s most important players because of his ability to play in the ruck and as a makeshift forward. His work at centre bounces, stoppages and around the ground in 22 games last season was excellent, finishing third in the club’s total marks and hard-ball gets. A solid target and an accurate kick for goal when he goes forward. Earmarked for a key forward role this season.
Brownlow Medal: 2003 votes 2; career votes 10.
Previous AFL club: Melbourne (1999-2001: 39 games, 7 goals).
Draft history: 1999 Pre-Season Draft 1st round selection (Melbourne) No. 9 overall; 2001 National AFL Draft traded by Melbourne for Daniel Bandy".
(from AFL.com.au) |
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Cannibal
Joined: 10 May 2004
Location: Buninyong
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What the hell do we need ANOTHER ruckman/forward for? We've got 'em coming out our bloody earholes!
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richo
Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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| We don't necessarily need another ruckman but we definitely need another key forward, especially one who can actually kick straight because Josh, Taz, Pebbles, Tex and even Dids struggled to kick straight last season and we didn't have too many blokes taking grabs inside 50. We won't win enough games to make the 8 with crumbers/midfielders kicking goals, we need 40+ goals from two key forwards and 20-30 + from someone else, minimum. |
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richo
Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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| I would argue that we have a surplus of midfielders as well but we sure as hell need another classy, quick one if we are to give the flag a shake in 05. Just because we have a lot of ruckmen/forwards doesn't mean we couldn't do with another decent one. |
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Johnson#26
Joined: 18 Dec 2003
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| We don't really need another ruckman. I heard Gerard Healy on Sports Today yesterday saying that he wants to go to Sydney. If he was going to play as a forward - maybe - but we really don't need to waste players. |
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erniedog 
Joined: 22 Sep 2003
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May not be exactly what we are looking for but if he is consistent with Freo's record (Bell, Clement, Holland, McPhee etc.) then he will become an all Australian
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BBHS 
bbhs
Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: Bellarine
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| Bell still plays for them |
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rand corp
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: south east asia
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I read elesewhere that he was not happy being relegated to a forwards role and wants to spend more time in the ruck. He came to the Dockers as a ruckman but now finds himslef as third ruck option and permanent forward.
So, is Guy the man?
Is he too injury prone and we therefore need some decent insurance?
Is the Guy/Josh combo the one to take us to a flag?
Is Pebs/Cam and Tex enough back-up?
I'd say, if he didn't cost us too much we should go for it but, Freo will want plenty. |
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Johnson#26
Joined: 18 Dec 2003
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Guy is the man for the job. His form cannot be questioned and he is ready to reload in 2005.
If anyone was going to get Simmonfds, it would be WCE or the Crows - who both need tall forwards. |
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Di Di Didak
Joined: 31 Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne
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I think WC will only trade for Key backmen...
They Have McDougall, Staker, Lynch, Gaspar who was injured, Hansen, And next year Gardiner who will play forward.
Midfield is quality, backs a bit shaky.
They wont want another ruckmen forward, Cox, Seaby, Paul Johnson in waiting... |
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erniedog
Joined: 22 Sep 2003
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what about
1. getting Simmonds for 2 round 2 (our own and in exchange for O'bree or Lokan or Shaw).
2. Trading Fraser to either Kangas for Harvey and their first round or to Geelong for Wojinski + Tennace.
This would arguably not leave us any weaker for a ruck backup/spare forward and would give us extra speed.
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Brown26
Joined: 14 Sep 2001
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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no one is trading Fraser, we don't need Simmonds.
Get real and think about it for a minute!
- Ben |
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PiesFan
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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| Doubt they would trade fraser and if they did, fraser = Harvey + draft pick??? I dont think he is worth that much |
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