Nathan Lonie

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

Nup. Ryan is one of our better players, and must be kept. He has the third best skills in the side.

labrooy · Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Location: Toowoomba, Qld

J26, ask yourself this question, is 13th good enough? We clearly do not have the list to be competitive against the better teams in the competition.

In order to improve we need to trade. If we start saying that every player who played senior football should be kept then we are going to stay in the bottom half of the ladder forever. Any trade is possible so long as it improves our prospects of making the finals.

Lonie, Didak, Presti, Shaw, McGough etc are all on the line to be traded. It depends if we can improve our areas of deficiency as to whether we trade them or not. No trade should be done for the sake of trading. No trade should be done if it means we make our team worse. However any trade that makes us a stronger team has to be done.

You have to stop thinking of players as being untradeable. There is no-one in the team in this category.

erniedog · Joined: 22 Sep 2003

Everyone is tradeable but of course we must expect 100% loyalty-I don't think so. If players believe that the club has no loyalty to them they will have no loyalty to the club. Thus when contacts come up it will be "put up or shut up and don't talk to me about loyalty". It also means that players will perform to maximize their own value not that of the team. Its a dangerous philosophy to have.

That does not mean no trading, but it means balance and taking the players desires and their contributions into account. For example, I believe that Presti is surplus to our needs. However, in view of his contributions, I would only trade him if he was willing and if it was clear to all his teamates that agreements were mutual and that there were no ill feelings.

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

Of your tradable list labrooy, I would not get rid of Dids, Lones, Presti and McGough. Only Goughy if the right deal comes up. I think we've had one bad year. If it happens again, then do the trades. Lets see if the same group that took us to 2 GF's can go up there again.

labrooy · Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Location: Toowoomba, Qld

J26, in order to get quality we have to trade quality. MM went into this season with the list that got us to 2 GFs and look what happened!! We have to improve and drafting young players won't achieve that on its own. We have to trade to improve our weak areas. Players like Lonie, McGough, Didak, Presti etc offer our best chance of getting quality players from opposition clubs.

Cannibal · Joined: 10 May 2004 Location: Buninyong

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

But Labrooy, with a good run with injury next year, I expect us to be in the top 5. What about you?

labrooy · Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Location: Toowoomba, Qld

J26, I have tipped in the past that we will make the top 4. That pre-supposes a good run with injury which we can't rely on. I would love a bit of depth as well.

Adz · Joined: 18 May 2003 Location: Heidelberg

I think people need to relise we are not the same as 2002,2003. We need to trade. Clearly St.Kilda, Power, Lions would flog us with a full strenght lineup on both teams.

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

And depth we will get with some good trading...