Who should Collingwood look at for next season?

magpie_mendies · Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Location: Melbourne,Victoria,Australia

Ryan O'keefe from Sydney and Daniel HArris from North

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

O'Keefe would make a huge difference. He is quick, smart and has good skills. Definitly one to watch.

Rhyno2004 · Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Location: left of the centre

mitch Hahn from the Bulldogs would be a good defender or possibly at trade of O'bree and a draft pick (or a youngin) to brisbane for Tim Notting , that is a wasted talent at brissie just playing him off the bench

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

Notting seems to come up every year but if forgotton. I think we should make a play for him and Hadley.

erniedog · Joined: 22 Sep 2003

Some interesting names that have been thrown up are Ottens, Hodge and Crawford. Most of the rest are pie in the sky eg. Judd, Ball, del Santo(get real) or useless.

Ottens is a real potential star with obvious injury and motivation problems. Richmond need a ruckman so the only trade bait that is viable from Collingwood would be Richards and an extra such as say Swan or Nixon.

Crawford is a champ but near the end of his career and possibly permanently limited by his back. Still they would require a reasonable trade eg. Presti .(arguably, Presti is dispensible with Walker taking over his role).

Hodge bad OP with recovery problematic. If he recovers he will be good and on that basis Hawthorn will require a reasonable trade eg. O'bree and 2nd round.

The advantage of Ottens over Richards is immediate efficacy rather than looking to 2006 and later for Richards to reach his potential. Richmond is going into rebuilding phase and may contemplate a 2006 maturing Richards and kids that have shown some potential eg. Swan/Nixon.

Hawthorn is also going into re-building and may therefore be willing to trade Crawford. Presti with 3-4 years left is reasonable value.

The advantage of having Ottens and Crawford is that given a reasonable run with injuries, it would place us as premiership contenders immediately. Crawford is coming into the discount age in terms of salary cap and the trade of Presti would offset. Similarly, Hodge's salary cap would be offset by O'bree.

However Ottens would significantly increase our cap. Maybe Wakelin is coming into the 1/2 cap range. Alternatively, we have to offload some players eg. Kinnear, Williams, McKee. Where contracts are a problem, perhaps we can offer a sweetener eg. Kinnear and Shakleton for taking over Kinnear's contract.

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

We won't trade Richards. We've invested so much in him and only now are we getting the return.

Daks · Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Location: Melbourne.

Why would we trade one of the most promising young ruckmen in the AFL? Richards will be a star.. getting rid of him for an experienced, but inconsistant ruckmen would be stupid. Missing the finals does really make some Collingwood suporters say some stupid things doesn't it?

themonk · Joined: 02 Mar 2004

We should throw everything at Dal Santo, a class midfielder, has the potential to be better than Simon Black.

We may have the following to play with, pick7, 23, O'Bree, Davis, Lockyer, Walker, MCG, Woewodin?

would Freo give up their 1st round pick for Woewodin & Walker?
would the Saints accept pick 7 & pick 11 for Dal Santo?

Another interesting player would be Travis Johnstone, O'Bree & a pick may be enough to secure him.

Dal Santo & Johnstone into our midfield would be sensational.

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

Luke Ball is a gun. Also try for Chris Ladhams, who has some real talent.

Daks · Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Location: Melbourne.

Gomez · Joined: 12 Jun 2004

The team might go better with:

Paul Williams
Damian Adkins
Heath Scotland
Nick Davis
Mal Michael

but only if we want the best full back,
the best half forward
& pace, skill & strength in the midfield.

Gomez · Joined: 12 Jun 2004

The team might go better with:

Paul Williams
Damian Adkins
Heath Scotland
Nick Davis
Mal Michael

but only if we want the best full back,
the best half forward
& pace, skill & strength in the midfield.

Cannibal · Joined: 10 May 2004 Location: Buninyong

Good post, erniedog, but I wouldn't be taking either Ottens or Crawford in a fit. Ottens is vastly over-rated and Crawford is injury prone. We've just come off a year with injuries stuffing us right up, so why would you want to take the risk on another bloke with serious injury problems?

but to clarify your question:

Johnson#26 · Joined: 18 Dec 2003

Cam · Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:21 pm

I can't believe i'm saying this... but maybe Travis Johnstone could we what we need. Bugger off all the McCough fans we seriously need people who will enable us to take advantage of Rocca and Tarrant. Johnstone hitting them on the chest would do that. Give the Dees McCough and Crow if need be.