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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:35 pm
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watt price tully wrote:

I agree. Let's start with Dr Timothy Leary's approach; after all, he was born in Springfield.


Player 1: Oh wow man! My hand just went like... through the ball, yeah?
Player 2: Yeah I know man. It fully just told me!
Player 1: Yeah and I could fully dig on some watermelon right now hey.
Player 2: Heheheheh.... Watermelon. Hehehehehe.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:31 pm
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Rodney Eade:

"You've got to be scientific about it, really, about what you want to get out of it... Sometimes camps can be over-rated. Does it help you get a kick? Probably, no... I don't really like the camps where you get flogged and put 'em out in the bush for two days and they've got to survive..."

Did you use to do that as a coach?

"No. No. I wouldn't do that."

You wouldn't let your players out in the bush?

"Nuh."
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 am
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It's BS.

I'm glad the club ditched 'Leading Teams' a few years back which is a part of the broader psycho babble we've seen emerge in the AFL in the last few years.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:58 pm
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Geek wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
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Let's start with Dr Timothy Leary's approach; after all, he was born in Springfield.

Player 1: Oh wow man! My hand just went like... through the ball, yeah?
...

There is a thread on this type of thing in the VPT forum...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:05 pm
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lululemon announced as Official Yoga and Mindfulness Partner of AFLPA

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/lululemon-announced-as-official-yoga-and-mindfulness-partner-of-aflpa/

AFLPA CEO Paul Marsh: “With the increasing demands on modern day AFL players both on and off the field, it’s important that players develop tools and strategies to combat these pressures.

“We’re seeing more and more players engage in mindfulness activities to switch off and to also complement their physical training regimes and lululemon’s values and practices align perfectly with what we as an association encourage players to embrace.”


Paul Tinkler, lululemon: “At lululemon, our purpose is to elevate the world through the power of practice. With our roots in yoga, we’ve spent considerable time focused on understanding the mind/body connection so mindfulness and mindful performance are an intrinsic part of our culture.”


[I never knew this athletic clothing company regards itself as "yoga-inspired".
The webpage above includes a pic of Dunn & Stephenson.]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:23 pm
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K wrote:
lululemon announced as Official Yoga and Mindfulness Partner of AFLPA

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/lululemon-announced-as-official-yoga-and-mindfulness-partner-of-aflpa/

AFLPA CEO Paul Marsh: “With the increasing demands on modern day AFL players both on and off the field, it’s important that players develop tools and strategies to combat these pressures.

“We’re seeing more and more players engage in mindfulness activities to switch off and to also complement their physical training regimes and lululemon’s values and practices align perfectly with what we as an association encourage players to embrace.”


Paul Tinkler, lululemon: “At lululemon, our purpose is to elevate the world through the power of practice. With our roots in yoga, we’ve spent considerable time focused on understanding the mind/body connection so mindfulness and mindful performance are an intrinsic part of our culture.”


[I never knew this athletic clothing company regards itself as "yoga-inspired".
The webpage above includes a pic of Dunn & Stephenson.]


The AFLPA are absolutely pathetic. Anyway, they are just pawns of the private school set who run the AFL nowadays.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:31 pm
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^ I don't see harm in the AFLPA basically having a sponsorship arrangement with a sports apparel retailer. But they and the AFL really should very seriously consider league regulation to prevent things like the Adelaide Cult Camp.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:31 pm
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On yoga...
Masha Gorodilova & Collingwood (20/12/17):

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/2017-12-20/the-grind-deexcite-the-mind
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:37 am
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It's a bit of a stretch to link yoga to psycho-babble. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:43 pm
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^ You were the only one who denounced the AFLPA for announcing lululemon as its "Official Yoga and Mindfulness Partner". Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:07 pm
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K wrote:
^ You were the only one who denounced the AFLPA for announcing lululemon as its "Official Yoga and Mindfulness Partner". Cool


It's a joke K......stretch.....yoga.....you get it? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:24 pm
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Oh, no: the dreaded double-headed eye rolls. Rudey, I should have been more mindful of your post. But perhaps it was a lululemon.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:32 pm
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K wrote:
Oh, no: the dreaded double-headed eye rolls. Rudey, I should have been more mindful of your post. But perhaps it was a lululemon.


Boom, boom! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:57 pm
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And now a look at the Brisbane Lions. (Compare with the Crowbots.)

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-07-14/what-on-earth-are-the-lions-trying-here

Well, they did win the game...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:26 pm
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The AFL, for better and worse, is now totally engulfed by corporatism. With that comes so called corporate culture, a truly vast field of both nonsense and intelligence, ripe with financial opportunity for people with management jive talk proposals to build teams and improve performance.

The management consultancies which market the "latest" "idea" usually rely on some novel aspect to sell their services. The novelty will always get you. It used to be nights out at Gentlemen's clubs ( a long time ago and much more informally ) Then it became SAS weekends. Now in the age of #MeToo it is different types of novelty, hence Lulu lemon. All of this masquerades as group psychology. Usually sold by people who have never read a book, don't know what the "Id" is and are toting forged University qualifications.

We are in the world of sales, convincing people to give you money for something based on the proposition that you need what they are offering.

If you come into the management structure of an AFL club (including the coaching etc staff) you will most likely have a football background and usually not much else. The enormous crowd of opportunists preying on the body of the sport will include lots of B grade aspirants to a place in the corporate sun, who will give you their business cards at club and AFL functions, Presidents lunches etc. etc. Some of them will have some sort of football connection . You may have played with or against them at school. They were B graders on the field then and are the same in business now. They have moved on from real estate and cars. One way or another you will find yourself having lunch etc. and before you know it you and the players and the staff will all be together in an episode of Survivor and/or Love Island saying "OM" doing the "MBTI" the "NEO", or some weird hybrid of all of the above, focussed on a "destination" built by one of their business associates for just such an occasion. Because, taken as a whole, the network is totally mates driven and incapable of critically evaluating anything except a list and a game plan. Now that, admittedly, is an exaggeration. But I think Eddie Betts and his family would wonder what was involved in the decision making that exposed him to the morons that sold just such a fiasco to the Crows.

Probably the most fantastic effort was Malcom Blight's DYI effort having the Geelong players dress up as American native indians. If I recall correctly they sat around the edge of a swimming pool and related their feelings about the club and the team. And, a hazy recollection of fire walking and burnt feet now comes to mind as another AFL expedition to the other side.

I hate to mention it but suddenly I'm thinking about Harry O'Brien and Paul Seedsman again. Yes psychology is the final frontier of football!

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