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MJ23
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| Wokko wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | What is it about right wing males and murder in the US or is it misogyny per se? Women wouldn't go out with him so he kills them FFS. So much hate.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46082316
Ban white males having guns and we'll have a lot less hate filled murders.
Yoga is about meditiation and (dare I use the term) wellness. It's another sockening murder.
Why aren't women hate filled murderers in the US (or elsewhare) in terms of using rifles and guns.
(religious suicide bombers are a different category altogther beyond gender) |
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You cant call out the less than 5 murders at one time........or by more than one person.......or in Chicago.......Or LA.....
Sadly, this is just the murders and does not include shooting victims who survived.
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watt price tully 
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| HAL wrote: | | Do you think it is inappropriate to treat women as objects? |
You hit the nail on the head HAL. We are talking hate crimes but that sort of eency weency detail eludes fake news purveyors (see pizza gate) and MJ23.
Right wing males killing women / Gays / Blacks / Jews we were talking about until it was yet again derailed. Murder in houses of worship like churches, synagogues and discos.
Another example of yet again misdirection and not comparing murderous racist misogynists with well murderous racist misogynists.
Why do they invariably belong to the right? What is it about rightwing ideology that attracts these nutbags?
Perhaps I might find the answer in Brietbart ......... then again perhaps not.
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HAL
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Wokko 
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Terrible thing to occur. However how many were murdered?
You gotta admit in relation to hate filled murder right wing males got the monopoly: Women, Blacks and Jews.
Why is it so, that murderous racist misogynist nutbags are attracted to right wing ideology (granted far right). Got me stumped
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stui magpie 
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When you have a country that's culturally right of centre to start with, and have open and easy access to serious firepower, it's a "no shit, Sherlock" that most of the shooters are right wing. Most of the population is.
On the "take the guns away from white men" shtick, really?
The white guys do the high profile mass shootings with targets mainly white.,
The black guys do the low profile high volume shootings with targets mainly black
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| stui magpie wrote: | When you have a country that's culturally right of centre to start with, and have open and easy access to serious firepower, it's a "no shit, Sherlock" that most of the shooters are right wing. Most of the population is.
On the "take the guns away from white men" shtick, really?
The white guys do the high profile mass shootings with targets mainly white.,
The black guys do the low profile high volume shootings with targets mainly black |
Most of the population is right wing? I'm not so sure about that. However the left right teminology is pretty flexible and the centre such that it is has moved right in the US and around the world.
But I know what you mean: Have free health for the poor is seen as socialist FFS.
Let alone their voting system.
It's men who do most of the kiling so logically ban men obtaining guns - although there is a minor detail; the right to bear alms or arm bears as the wonderful Robyn Williams once said .
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The gun culture is set in stone over there.
They'll never get the 2nd amendment repealed so the only hope is to impose limitations on the types of guns, which still potentially bangs up against the second amendment.
Not a pretty picture regardless of politics
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MJ23
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| Wokko wrote: | https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1059299507538665472?s=19
Uh huh |
Its not hard to understand for some.
I dont think the 440 real people killed in Chicago just this year would see themselves as a misdirection as WPF will have you beleive when talking about Gun violence in a gun violence topic discussion. These were women, blacks, Jews......
Im sure not too many of the perpetrators liked their victims.
Talking about misdirection, WPF will continually compare the right of centre Americans with the far right and mass murders. I struggle to understand an argument that constantly sees extremism in one side of the political spectrum yet cant, or wont admit the extremism sits on both sides and is condemned by both sides. Will argue the leader of one political party's constant rhetoric is cause for violence yet when faced with numerous examples of rhetoric from the other side and incidents of violence........crickets.
What isnt a surprise though is the need to attack the the other side personally when the argument isn't working out how you thought it would. Fairly common place on the left.
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| MJ23 wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1059299507538665472?s=19
Uh huh |
Its not hard to understand for some.
I dont think the 440 real people killed in Chicago just this year would see themselves as a misdirection as WPF will have you beleive when talking about Gun violence in a gun violence topic discussion. These were women, blacks, Jews......
Im sure not too many of the perpetrators liked their victims.
Talking about misdirection, WPF will continually compare the right of centre Americans with the far right and mass murders. I struggle to understand an argument that constantly sees extremism in one side of the political spectrum yet cant, or wont admit the extremism sits on both sides and is condemned by both sides. Will argue the leader of one political party's constant rhetoric is cause for violence yet when faced with numerous examples of rhetoric from the other side and incidents of violence........crickets.
What isnt a surprise though is the need to attack the the other side personally when the argument isn't working out how you thought it would. Fairly common place on the left. |
um, and just who is WPF???
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Pies4shaw 
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| think positive wrote: | | MJ23 wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1059299507538665472?s=19
Uh huh |
Its not hard to understand for some.
I dont think the 440 real people killed in Chicago just this year would see themselves as a misdirection as WPF will have you beleive when talking about Gun violence in a gun violence topic discussion. These were women, blacks, Jews......
Im sure not too many of the perpetrators liked their victims.
Talking about misdirection, WPF will continually compare the right of centre Americans with the far right and mass murders. I struggle to understand an argument that constantly sees extremism in one side of the political spectrum yet cant, or wont admit the extremism sits on both sides and is condemned by both sides. Will argue the leader of one political party's constant rhetoric is cause for violence yet when faced with numerous examples of rhetoric from the other side and incidents of violence........crickets.
What isnt a surprise though is the need to attack the the other side personally when the argument isn't working out how you thought it would. Fairly common place on the left. |
um, and just who is WPF??? |
He means watt price tully, who is doing his level best to post about the incidence of violent gun crime in the USA and is being - it would appear - criticized for being "off topic" by people who want to post about black antisemitism - or, frankly, just about anything that doesn't concern the ways in which too many bad people kill too many other people (good and bad alike) in the USA with guns.
Not every racist in the world is white. Newsflash??? |
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Wokko
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| Pies4shaw wrote: |
Not every racist in the world is white. Newsflash??? |
It seems to be a newsflash to many, WPT included who keeps banging on about white males.
He chose to make this a racial issue. |
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Pies4shaw
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watt price tully
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| MJ23 wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1059299507538665472?s=19
Uh huh |
Its not hard to understand for some.
I dont think the 440 real people killed in Chicago just this year would see themselves as a misdirection as WPF will have you beleive when talking about Gun violence in a gun violence topic discussion. These were women, blacks, Jews......
Im sure not too many of the perpetrators liked their victims.
Talking about misdirection, WPF will continually compare the right of centre Americans with the far right and mass murders. I struggle to understand an argument that constantly sees extremism in one side of the political spectrum yet cant, or wont admit the extremism sits on both sides and is condemned by both sides. Will argue the leader of one political party's constant rhetoric is cause for violence yet when faced with numerous examples of rhetoric from the other side and incidents of violence........crickets.
What isnt a surprise though is the need to attack the the other side personally when the argument isn't working out how you thought it would. Fairly common place on the left. |
Good lord, so many errors and so little time:
1. WPF? Which 7 year old did you steal that from?
2. Have I once said that Trump caused the racist murders by a white right wing male? No. Misattribution again.
3. Not once have I stated that there aren't extemists on the left a false claim by you indeed it's a lie. Straw man argument, false claim, misrepresentation and a porky pie by you. You just thought that would be good to make up and throw in. Sorry you've been caught out.
4. You continue to use killings in Chicago per se and compare this with murderous misogyny and racism perpetrated by nutter white wing males. There is no comparison to my specific question:
Why is it that murderous, misogynist and racist white right wing nutter males are attracted to the right wing? To be clear I am asking why it is that these types area attracted to right wing ways of seeing the world.
Now I'm not so binary as to say that there are not racists and misogynists on the left but they don't go into synagogues and shoot people, they don't go into churches and shoot people dead and they don't kill gays in discos or shoot women in a yoga studio as far as I know: This seems to be the exclusive domain of right wing, white, racist, mysogynist and homophpobic nutter males who obviously are attracted to the right. In the words of professor Julius Sumner Miller "why is it so"
Please refrain from misattribution, misrepresentation and misdirection.
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