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inxs88
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SteveH67 wrote: | We coughed a Rd1 (pick 6) for Beams.
Whilst he has been great servant for us, 2010 makes him an immortal, we got dudded big time by the Lions.
The Lions would have known something wasnt right with him.
Stuff it. |
Pick 6??? Please explain _________________ I love the Pies, hate Carlscum |
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010 Location: Living rent free
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Hopefully Beams can do the honourable thing and retire from AFL rather than indefinite leave. This would get his salary off our books. We can then provide him the support he needs.
win - win. _________________ Fighting against the objectification of woman. |
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slangman
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
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imagine we lose a De Goey, Moore or some other quality player because of our salary cap squeeze whilst Beams is getting payed big bucks to deal with his mental health issues?
That’s when the proverbial will really hit the fan. _________________ - Side By Side - |
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Toppi
Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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perthmagpie
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: Yarrawonga
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What? You can’t spell a premiership player’s name. _________________ Magpies love pies(Lol) |
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Cam
Nick's BB Member #166
Joined: 10 May 2002 Location: Springvale
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Hindsight is the the most accurate of all the sights. Beats foresight most of the time.
Beams was coming off an outstanding 2018 season. We salivated at the prospect of a goal-kicking midfielder being the extra link up in our chain.
The thing about mental illness is that it's not a fixed condition like a broken leg. It can come upon you rapidly, it can leave you temporarily. Like a bad habit it can leave you for a while, then return. You can appear fine to certain groups of people for long periods of time. It can be undetectable to all but the closest of your allies. Lying and deception can be huge parts of it. Self-deception vs resilience is a constant battle.
He might feel great and start training again in a week. I'm sure Collingwood will have some pretty handy doctors workig with him. Public admissions are part [it seems] of the AFL method of cleansing/rehab. We'll see.
From a Collingwood business point of view, the shareholders are angry, disappointed. But those shareholders are fickle. If he rehabilitates successfully and we can some return on investment... things get forgotten quickly if the results come.
Unfortunately though, his mental health has become as fragile as Benny Reid's physical health. Something we here have lost faith in.
Personally, I hope Beamsy regains faith in his own body and mind. _________________ Get back on top. |
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neil
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Location: Queensland
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hope he gets better
Wasnt happy with the trade but could see the concept
Another goal kicking mid tag teaming with De Goey would give other teams nightmares _________________ Carlscum 120 years being cheating scum |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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What'sinaname wrote: | Hopefully Beams can do the honourable thing and retire from AFL rather than indefinite leave. This would get his salary off our books. We can then provide him the support he needs.
win - win. |
This short and sweet _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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PyreneesPie
PyreneesPie
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Cam wrote: | Hindsight is the the most accurate of all the sights. Beats foresight most of the time.
Beams was coming off an outstanding 2018 season. We salivated at the prospect of a goal-kicking midfielder being the extra link up in our chain.
The thing about mental illness is that it's not a fixed condition like a broken leg. It can come upon you rapidly, it can leave you temporarily. Like a bad habit it can leave you for a while, then return. You can appear fine to certain groups of people for long periods of time. It can be undetectable to all but the closest of your allies. Lying and deception can be huge parts of it. Self-deception vs resilience is a constant battle.
He might feel great and start training again in a week. I'm sure Collingwood will have some pretty handy doctors workig with him. Public admissions are part [it seems] of the AFL method of cleansing/rehab. We'll see.
Personally, I hope Beamsy regains faith in his own body and mind. |
A post of considerable insight and wisdom Cam. Very well expressed IMHO. |
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23 YIPPEE!!!
YIPPEE 23!!!
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Feel the pies were dubbed in the Beams deal Brisbane must be laughing they got 2 1st round picks too I was never a fan of Beams coming back to the pies he should have stayed at Brisbane and we keep the 1st round picks. Poor management on the pies half. |
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Uncle Jack
Joined: 17 Apr 2019 Location: Canberra
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A lot can happen in 4, 5, or 6 months. If things turn around he'd be a handy, physically rejuvenated inclusion, who's had a bruise free year off, for ANZAC day or round 8, etc to cover injuries to Taylor or De Gooooey or Steele etc. |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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My only gripe on a Beams or a Wells or a Murray is that it’s never absolute
We enter season,s with unsettled issues
Dont ask me how to rectify and eliminate cos I don’t know
And that frustrates the shit out of me _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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It’s absolute now with Murray and Wells. It’s absolute with all of them, eventually. |
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Monco Matt
Do it to THEM before THEY do it to YOU
Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Location: Sittin, Drinkin, Reloadin & Waitin
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To give up two first round draft picks for no return is enough to prevent a premiership tilt. You just cannot afford to be that wasteful, the competition is so close. Clubs strive to gain a 1% edge and we piss away top draft selections. WTF is wrong with this club? Its as if it tries to sabotage its chances sometimes. _________________ RED "BABY" CAVANAUGH: Didn't hear what the bet was.
MONCO: Your life. |
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WhyPhilWhy?
WhyPhilWhy?
Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Location: Location: Location:
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The trade was sufficient to get Quaynor with the 1st Round 2018 selection and Kelly with the 2nd round - which we most likely would have done anyway, plus we picked up Beamer.
The 2019 1st rounder still rankles a bit though... |
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