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Defender wrote: | An "emerging" superstar would cost us player/s-pick/s, doesn't make a heap of sense considering there's a couple of superstar FAs coming up this year.
If we do go after one of the GWS kids I'd suggest our first 2 DPs and Witts would be in play. | You don't give up Big Blokes that easily as they don't grow on trees. |
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Spot on. It takes some players five years to develop, especially if they're rucks or key position players. Witts is only in his fourth year. He could still be anything. I believe that having Witts and Grundy rotating with each other between the ruck and the forward line should remain an essential part of our structure. We need to persevere with them and be prepared to cop a little bit of pain along the way as they develop. |
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Agree the Two ruckman both playing together need time as they may be our point of difference over time
I would hate to see us let Big Wittsy go to pick up a mid.
I have followed the Pies for a fair while and I cannot remember two legitimate Ruckman, even Thomo & Jerker never really worked both were good but both wanted 80% as 1st Ruck _________________ Bucks you just reckon he can still cut it in the middle |
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Thommo and Moore worked okay although both clearly at opposite ends of their careers. |
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Culprit wrote: | Defender wrote: | An "emerging" superstar would cost us player/s-pick/s, doesn't make a heap of sense considering there's a couple of superstar FAs coming up this year.
If we do go after one of the GWS kids I'd suggest our first 2 DPs and Witts would be in play. | You don't give up Big Blokes that easily as they don't grow on trees. |
Who do you suggest we give up for a "emerging superstar" then? Fasolo? Blair?
I mentioned Witts because he's from NSWs, also, Grundy looks like being a star, if Witts turns out to be a star in the future do you really want to invest a large portion of our cap on 2 ruckmen? Because I dont. _________________ Defender...........
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Trading Witts means we have ONE ruckman on our list
Good ones dont grow on trees
For the Cox lovers out there he is far from ready to play senior football _________________ Carlscum 120 years being cheating scum |
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themonk wrote: | Dangles wrote: | So he reckons we've offered Treloar 750K a year for five years. |
A classy mid that kicks goals, reminds me of someone we once had.
We may not get him but great to see the club has identified exactly what I believe we need, another elite midfielder.
Add to this a young tall forward and we are done. |
Since you mention it
Stats comparison for Treloar's 3rd year vs Beams. Bear in mind that Beams was 3rd banana in our midfield in 2011 behind Swan and Pendles, as well as having Ball farming the ball out for him
Adam Treloar Name Dayne Beams
GWS Giants Team Brisbane Lions
Midfield Position Midfield
66 Career Games 118
Aspendale Origin Southporth Sharks
March 9, 1993 Date of Birth February 12, 1990
Turned 21 in 2014 Age Turned 21 in 2011
182cm Height 186cm
84kg Weight 85kg
Last Drafted In 2008 National Draft
Last Draft Position Round 2, Pick #29
Last Drafted By Collingwood Magpies
2014 Stats for Season 2011
20 Games 16
12.6 Kicks Per Game 11.8
15.0 Handballs Per Game 11.1
27.6 Disposals Per Game 22.8
3.6 Marks Per Game 5.1
0.6 Goals Per Game 1.3
0.6 Behinds Per Game 0.6
5.6 Tackles Per Game 3.6
0.1 Hitouts Per Game 0
1.0 Frees For Per Game 0.8
1.0 Frees Against Per Game 0.5
12.5 Contested Possessions Per Game 8.2
15.0 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 14.4
18.6 Effective Disposals Per Game 16.4
67.4% Effective Disposals % Per Game 71.9%
3.2 Clangers Per Game 1.9
0 Contested Marks Per Game 0.3
0.2 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 1.0
5.9 Clearances Per Game 3.2
2.0 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.9
0.7 One Percenters Per Game 1.4
1.8 Bounces Per Game 0.1
83.2 Time On Ground % Per Game 76.6
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Barrett, lol _________________ Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory..... lasts forever! |
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Get Treloar.
An absolute superstar in the making.
Worth every cent of $750000. _________________ we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest. |
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we do need some silk _________________ I love the Pies, hate Carlscum |
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inxs88 wrote: | We should go after Shiel. Is quick plus can play inside and out plus seems more homesick than Treloar! |
Do you watch football ??
Treloar is a gun inside and better finisher than Beams at the same age.
Haha i posted this before i read page 2. Good to see the same thinking about Beams.
As soon as we lost Beams, minutes later I said Treloar had to be the one.
And we should have pushed hard on that day to make it happen.
Shiel is great and super super quick but Treloar is Pendlebury. Just pure class. And probably a better football brain.
750k for 5 years, i think thats good value. We could go higher, but hopefully its the right price, it won't kill the club. Its probably what Selwood is on !
First pick plus Goldsack i would imagine. |
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FACT!
Neil Balme & Derek Hines returned from Sydney this morning.....
maybe D Hannebury, ??? _________________ Cos the Party Pies are for Everyone!
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Sugar Ray wrote: | FACT!
Neil Balme & Derek Hines returned from Sydney this morning.....
maybe D Hannebury, ??? |
Both were seen giving cheek to the filth and both got barrelled at Dee Why Point ! _________________ " Ohhh Banksy and out comes the Note Book".
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Is he any relation to Harry Treloar? _________________ WE WERE ROBBED, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MEEE!
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where did purple get his story from a garbage bin |
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