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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:21 pm
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Is there actually any law that specifically protects a prime minister in those situations, though? To my understanding she’s being prosecuted for chucking an egg at someone, not chucking an egg at the PM ... officially, anyway.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:32 pm
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No specific law, but context.

You can be charged with Assault without actually hitting anyone. In the majority of those situations, cops (or DPP) won't bother prosecuting as no one's hurt, not worth the paperwork and time.

In the case of someone attacking the PM, different context. The law isn't different, it's the different context that drives the charges.

We've never had a PM assassinated, or any legit attempt made. We'd like to have the PM be able to mingle with the public without having a SWAT team around him ready to shoot anyone who blinks in their presence.

Think back to the Taswegian flake who nutted Abbott or consider what the reaction would've been if a teenage boy had smashed an egg on the back of Julia Gillards head while she was PM during a public meet and greet.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:11 pm
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So, what's the verdict? Eggs are a health hazard and bullets would be cleaner?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:07 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/15/charlottesville-james-alex-fields-sentencing

A man convicted of federal hate crime charges for deliberately slamming his car into a crowd of anti-racism protesters during a white nationalist rally in Virginia has been sentenced to life in prison on state charges.

James Alex Fields Jr, 22, was sentenced on Monday to life plus 419 years for killing one person and injuring dozens during the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville on 12 August 2017.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:09 pm
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Not only stupid - but $14 million poorer, in some cases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/15/judge-advises-14m-in-damages-to-jewish-woman-targeted-by-neo-nazi-troll-storm
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:15 am
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[quote="Pies4shaw"]Not only stupid - but $14 million poorer, in some cases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/15/judge-advises-14m-in-damages-to-jewish-woman-targeted-by-neo-nazi-troll-storm[/quote


pointless if they can't get it. ,p

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:10 pm
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[quote="ronrat"]
Pies4shaw wrote:
Not only stupid - but $14 million poorer, in some cases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/15/judge-advises-14m-in-damages-to-jewish-woman-targeted-by-neo-nazi-troll-storm[/quote


pointless if they can't get it. ,p


On a few levels that misses the point here. See the background story for context.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:57 am
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/20/as-donald-trump-revives-racism-struggle-against-it-gathers-momentum
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:48 pm
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Ben Carson: Trump is not a racist and his comments were not racist

Carson, who is the only black Cabinet secretary in the Trump administration, pointed to the president's economic record when asked what he may have meant in his tweets targeting the progressive lawmakers.

"I think you can see what the president means by looking at his accomplishments," Carson said. "Look at his policies. Under this president you see the rising tide lifting all boats. You see low unemployment - record low - for blacks, for Hispanics, for all the demographics of our nation

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiPreOTmsXjAhWVdn0KHTWpDpUQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fadministration%2F453482-ben-carson-trump-is-not-a-racist-and-his-comments-were-not-racist&psig=AOvVaw2yN9DOG65cHHLnrXkmUEjh&ust=1563770754194865

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:43 pm
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Here's the antidote, Skids, before you catch stupid germs from Carson:

https://www.salon.com/2019/07/18/ben-carson-donald-trumps-faulty-human-shield-against-accusations-of-racism/
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:24 pm
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They’re not trying very hard, are they?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:07 am
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Pies4shaw wrote:
Here's the antidote, Skids, before you catch stupid germs from Carson:

https://www.salon.com/2019/07/18/ben-carson-donald-trumps-faulty-human-shield-against-accusations-of-racism/


Ben Carson is a gift that keeps on giving:

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1131722517972963329

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:32 am
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Looking forward to Carson's feeble efforts to play a straight Nazi bat to this one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/21/trump-racist-squad-democrats-omar-ocasio-cortez-tlaib-pressley

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/21/donald-trump-racist-wall-street-republicans
It started with Donald Trump’s racist tweets demanding that four Democratic congresswomen – Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley and Ilhan Omar – “go back” to the “crime-infested places from which they came”.

All four women are American citizens and only one, Omar, was born overseas.

On Wednesday, at a rally in North Carolina, Trump continued his attack, especially on Omar. In response, the crowd chanted: “Send her back!”

Subsequently, Trump tried unconvincingly to distance himself from the chant.

The relevant question is not whether Trump is a racist. Of course he is. Or whether he’s going to continue bashing these members of Congress, who fill all his demonization boxes: Democrats, females, people of color, a Muslim. Of course he will.

The real question is whether the people bankrolling Trump and the Republican party are going to stop this rot before it consumes the politics of 2020, and perhaps more....

The RNC is intentionally and mendaciously fueling the same racism Trump is fueling, for the same purpose: whipping up the base.

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Why is Wall Street funding Trump’s GOP? Because it is delighted with what Trump and Senate Republicans are giving it: tax cuts and regulatory rollbacks.

Dimon was instrumental in getting the Trump-Republican tax cut through Congress. Last year it saved JP Morgan and the other big banks $21bn.

Trump and the Republicans have also given Wall Street more freedom. They defanged the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and have allowed the banks to grow even larger, announcing more mergers and acquisitions in the first five months of 2019 than in any full-year period since the Street nearly imploded in 2008.

The result has been vastly more money for the Street. Last year’s bonus pool totaled $27.5bn – more than three times the combined incomes of the approximately 600,000 Americans earning the minimum wage.

Since Trump’s inauguration, JP Morgan’s stock is up nearly a third. Dimon earned $31m in 2018.

Asked recently how Trump was doing, Dimon gushed.

“Regulatory stuff, good.”

The summit with North Korea’s Kim Jong-un? A “great idea.”

He also complimented the administration’s “negotiating tactic” on China and called the relationship between big business and the White House “active and good”.

Asked about Trump saying the Fed had “gone crazy”, Dimon said he had “never seen a president who wanted interest rates to go up”.

Wall Street and the CEOs of major corporations have made a hellish deal – ignore Trump’s repugnance and provide ongoing support for the GOP regardless of its complicity in return for high returns. Perhaps they also believe that the flames of racism and xenophobia will distract the nation sufficiently for them to continue looting it.

But a deal with the devil can exact a large toll. Flames that distract now could lead to an uncontrollable conflagration.

The putative leaders of the American economy owe it to the nation: they must help douse this fire.

Robert Reich, a former US secretary of labor, is professor of public policy at the University of California at Berkeley and the author of Saving Capitalism: For the Many, Not the Few and The Common Good. He is also a columnist for Guardian US.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:42 am
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Try putting the Guardian down and you might stop seeing Nazis under your bed and feeling the masturbatory urge to call people racists.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:52 am
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Trump's tweet is inaccurate, offensive and xenophobic.
Can you help me understand what part of it is racist?
If Trump told John Oliver to "go back to where he came from" would that also be racist?
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