Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board Forum Index
 The RulesThe Rules FAQFAQ
   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   CalendarCalendar   SearchSearch 
Log inLog in RegisterRegister
 
Recreational cyclists

Users browsing this topic:0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 0 Guests
Registered Users: None

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board Forum Index -> Victoria Park Tavern
 
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 39, 40, 41, 42, 43  Next
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Pies4shaw Leo

pies4shaw


Joined: 08 Oct 2007


PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:10 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/chelsea-cyclist-50-dies-as-hit-run-driver-faces-upgraded-charges-20190331-p519dp.html
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
stui magpie Gemini

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.


Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:36 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

watt price tully wrote:
think positive wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
The entire structure of our built environment is predicated upon massive, powerful, fast objects driving on roads.

Consequently, getting on a bicycle and riding on a road is a very risky act. It's like swimming in the dark in shark-infested waters. Most of us are not stupid enough to do it.


hehe, yep, 100%


See above, not even 10% correct.


Sorry, I disagree.

The road system here was originally designed to accommodate firstly horse and bullock born carriages. If Chumly Wentworth the third got too close to the horses or bullocks on his penny farthing he would have got the whip across his arse.

Then cars and trucks came along and the divide was made between the road and the footpath. One for vehicles and one for feet.

Then cyclists came along and buggered everything up by claiming the right to ride on the road

_________________
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
watt price tully Scorpio



Joined: 15 May 2007


PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:15 am
Post subject: Reply with quote

1. The road system was made how many years ago assumes nothing has changed since the time roads have been built.

1.2 Plenty has changed: roads have changed, cars have changed, rules have changed, road users have changed: indeed their are lanes Shocked

2. P4S wrote that "the entire structure is predicated" clearly that's wrong (see above)

3. P4S wrote that it's like swimming in shark infested waters. Clearly that's overreach and wrong. It's like swimming in the sea where sharks exist but people who bicycle aren't riding in infested waters; there will be a shark attack now and again. If I go swimming where I know sharks exist and are known to feed (no accommodation for people who ride bikes & no road education either) is a lot different to riding where bike lanes do exist (regular beach going) and most cars most of the time are aware (and are policed)

4. I will never ride on a freeway or say the Ring Road in Melbourne. I do ride on Beach Road and StKilda road: yo need to be aware and mindful as I do crossing the road, driving my car etc.

5. Citing examples of bike riders being killed or injured does not mean shark infested waters - you may as well say pedestrians killed by cars also means using roads can be dangerous.

6. Riding a bike on roads in many ways has never been safer but pick your roads, ride with others as much as possible and not just be seen but be noticed: bright colours, reflective jackets & lights: I see too many riders wear black ec. Always obey the road rules as too many cars don't.

_________________
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
watt price tully Scorpio



Joined: 15 May 2007


PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:13 am
Post subject: Reply with quote

Fatal accident: elderly pedestrian crosses a red light

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/i-heard-bodies-falling-85-year-old-pedestrian-died-crossing-at-red-light-inquest-told-20190625-p5213t.html

_________________
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
stui magpie Gemini

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.


Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:21 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the old guy literally stepped right in front of the cyclist, how the hell did he not manage to avoid him?

Yeah most cycles have shit brakes, but if he was watching where was going and had a second or 2 to react, you'd think he could avoid wiping out an old man even if he had to drop. Confused

_________________
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
think positive Libra

Side By Side


Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Location: somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:25 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

40k an hour is pretty fast, and he probably wasnt expecting someone to step out. sad. cant blame the cyclist though.
_________________
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
David Libra

I dare you to try


Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:18 am
Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Yeah, I don’t think he would have avoided charges if there’d been any indication of negligence. Kind of awful to realise this happened right outside the building I work in.
_________________
All watched over by machines of loving grace
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger  
stui magpie Gemini

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.


Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:29 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

Not implying negligence, even if he had his head down pedalling hard, he had right of way with the lights. I just have a mental disconnect with the idea that the old bloke just didn't see him which suggests he wasn't 5 metres away so deciding to cross against the lights, and the cyclist not having enough time to take some evasive action. Confused
_________________
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
watt price tully Scorpio



Joined: 15 May 2007


PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:46 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

Same killing of cyclists by cars across the ditch

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/18/wellington-cyclists-call-for-safety-overhaul-after-fatality-new-zealand

_________________
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman


Last edited by watt price tully on Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:51 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
watt price tully Scorpio



Joined: 15 May 2007


PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:49 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

This is sad but rivetting. Well done to the local police in Queensland

Part one was last night, part two is next week:

Australian Story ABC (Monday nights at 8.pm or ABC iView)

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/australian-story

_________________
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
stui magpie Gemini

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.


Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:21 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet cycling is statistically far safer in Victoria at least than driving, riding a motor cycle or even walking. http://www.tac.vic.gov.au/road-safety/statistics/lives-lost-rolling-12-month
_________________
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
watt price tully Scorpio



Joined: 15 May 2007


PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:27 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

stui magpie wrote:
Yet cycling is statistically far safer in Victoria at least than driving, riding a motor cycle or even walking. http://www.tac.vic.gov.au/road-safety/statistics/lives-lost-rolling-12-month


Did you text that while driving? Wink Razz

Seriously though Australian Story this week is well worth a watch.

_________________
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
stui magpie Gemini

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.


Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:13 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

^

Nah, typed it walking down Swanston St while dodging cyclists, food delivery numbats on scooters, beggers and millenials. Cool

_________________
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
Pies4shaw Leo

pies4shaw


Joined: 08 Oct 2007


PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:14 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

Why dodge them when you can kick their wheels?
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
stui magpie Gemini

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.


Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:26 pm
Post subject: Reply with quote

^

I don't want them landing on me and I like my shoes too much.

Plan B would be to carry some short steel rods in my pocket and just jam them in the spokes as they ride past

_________________
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Back to top  
View user's profile Send private message  
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board Forum Index -> Victoria Park Tavern All times are GMT + 11 Hours

Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 39, 40, 41, 42, 43  Next
Page 40 of 43   

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Privacy Policy

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group