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stui magpie 

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:38 pm
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Interesting article from a seriously strange unit.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:17 pm
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The USA Government have not learnt any lessons from the revelations of Watergate and the My Lai massacre.

I was talking to 3 Americans last night and despite 2 being Trump supporters etc they all agreed that the sins of Government and the Military should not be grounds for punishing those that exposed it.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:24 pm
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^ On the contrary, I’d say they’ve learned very well – to do a better job of shooting the messenger.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:19 am
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Strange times makes strange bedfellows.
Jimmy Dore (leftist commentator) celebrating Tucker Carlson's (Fox News) take on Assange:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnwC_1Pf9VQ
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:05 pm
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More on Ecuador and Assange supposedly biting the hand that feeds:

https://defend.wikileaks.org/2019/04/03/ecuador-twists-embarrassing-ina-papers-into-pretext-to-oust-assange/#background

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:10 am
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Chomsky: Assange arrest "scandalous"

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/12/chomsky_arrest_of_assange_is_scandalous

Also:

https://youtu.be/1efOs0BsE0g

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:52 pm
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"The British, Australian, Ecuadorian and US Governments have made an ad about Julian Assange’s arrest and it’s surprisingly honest and informative."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=1efOs0BsE0g
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:33 pm
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^ Great video! Their stuff is always brilliant.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:11 pm
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Assange is sentenced to 50 weeks in jail for breaching his bail conditions.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-01/julian-assange-sentenced-in-london-over-bail-breach-wikileaks/11064356

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:44 pm
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Judge Michael Snow said Assange's claim that he had breached his bail conditions because he could not expect a fair hearing in the UK was "laughable".

"His behaviour is that of a narcissist who cannot get past his own self-interest," Justice Snow said in his judgment.


Personally, I'd prefer Judges to be sticking to facts and precedents rather than making judgements on personalities that they're unqualified to make

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 12:17 am
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As pointed out in the article, only two weeks short of the maximum sentence for the crime. And some people think this isn’t a total kangaroo court.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 2:17 am
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An interview with Wikileaks’ editor about Assange’s arrest and current situation. Mentions in passing the claim about Assange smearing shit on the walls of the embassy, which – unsurprisingly – seems to have been a total fabrication. Just all part of the character assassination and misdirection aimed at distracting people from what’s really at stake here.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/wikileaks-everything-was-done-to-make-assange-miserable-a-1265603-amp.html

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:42 am
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Assange has been charged with 17 offences under the espionage act, some of which can entail the death penalty:

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/445299-assange-hit-with-17-new-charges-including-espionage-act-violations

Anyone who cares about journalism and freedom of information must protest this.

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stui magpie 

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:09 am
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Interesting. Yeah, I know it's Wikipedia but some info on the Espionage act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917

On one hand, by obtaining info related to defence and providing it to someone who shouldn't have it (the public) there's an argument that he has breached it.

On the other, Espionage almost by definition comes with some intent to hinder defence operations. I'm not sure if that's so clear cut.

Also interesting that the act has been in constant battle with freedom of speech.

It's going to be interesting how the US approach this, Assange had almost diminished into a parody of himself and lost the public interest. This has the potential to stir things right back up again.

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 9:33 pm
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When I was working with Defence we were warned not to read wikileaks when all this stuff came out. Not sure how they would know and what the penalties would be. The Intelligence Corps were up to their arse in alligators trying to find out if Australian interests were exposed. They have completely let Assange down as a citizen.
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