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thesoretoothsayer 



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:25 pm
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University of Western Sydney Bullying Prevention Guidelines
https://policies.westernsydney.edu.au/view.current.php?id=00240

"Bullying includes but is not limited to repeated unreasonable overt behaviours such as:
verbal abuse - yelling, screaming, shouting, aggressive or abusive or offensive language, personal insults, name-calling, sarcasm..."

It prefaces this with:
"The examples of bullying behaviour listed below need to be repeated and unreasonable to fall within the definition of bullying."

So repeated and unreasonable sarcasm is a form of bullying.
I can accept that (if "repeated" doesn't simply mean "more than once").

Unfortunately, the guidelines also state:
"An isolated incident of bullying behaviour is not considered bullying, but may lead to action being taken against the perpetrator based on that single incident."

So, a sarcastic remark could get your reported and investigated.
Would it? I don't know.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:33 pm
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thesoretoothsayer wrote:
I take pretty much anything with a grain of salt these days hence the "claims".
Seems to originate from the IPA. Read into that what you will.

I found the claim Stui refers to the most disturbing.
This country has [b]one
unique culture and it should be respected and celebrated.
However, if we're going to start dismissing science because it clashes with belief then your local priest, rabbi, mullah might wish to make a few suggestions.
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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/pc-gone-mad-on-campus-the-places-where-sportsmanlike-is-a-dirty-rude/news-story/b88a397eed387d7a936d5528bbe8482d


Agreed.

If we're tracing occupancy back to the dreaming, the Tiwi Islands occupancy starts with their separation from the mainland around 5000 years ago, which is part of their oral history around "the first woman" who walked from the mainland to the islands as the water rose behind her.

Science can track the time span of this and several other of the Aboriginal dreamtime creation histories. Like the bible, it's parables and chinese whispers with kernals of fact sown in which can be traced.

Factually, the Tiwi Islands have likely been populated for longer than most of mainland Australia (around 60,000 years) given their proximity to the track the original Aborigines used to get here, but the Islands they now live on were the high points of hills or mountains when they settled there, back when sea level was 100 metres lower than now. The places they lived way back when are now under a shitpile of water

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:33 pm
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https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/charlie-brown-thanksgiving-criticized-as-racist
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:31 pm
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Bucks5 wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/charlie-brown-thanksgiving-criticized-as-racist


Who even thinks this shit up?!
Pathetic!

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:50 pm
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Three People Said Something on Twitter: The Movie
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:34 pm
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David wrote:
Three People Said Something on Twitter: The Movie


Laughing Laughing

Ive got a job for you on after hours Sky TV or radio 2GB in Sidanee 😉

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:58 pm
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good grief
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:42 am
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https://hatecrime.campaign.gov.uk/
Pretty scary stuff. Can't wait for it to arrive in Oz.

Quote:
A hate crime is any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim, or anybody else to be motivated by hostility or prejudice...


Honk your horn at someone in traffic.
That person decides you honked your horn because they're black. Hate Crime.

Call a Carlton supporter a piece of crap.
That person decides you insulted them because they're gay. Hate Crime.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:13 pm
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Neither of those are criminal offences, and thus fail to meet the criteria of your own quoted passage.

I agree that it is better to have objective measurements for deciding such things, but what is "objectively" offensive is a very hard thing to establish in its own right.

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thesoretoothsayer 



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:49 am
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Lord of the Rings prejudiced against orcs. Encourages orcophobia.
https://www.wired.com/2018/11/geeks-guide-lotr-orcs/
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thesoretoothsayer 



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:01 am
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David wrote:
Neither of those are criminal offences, and thus fail to meet the criteria of your own quoted passage...


Correct. Neither of these would get you charged for hate crimes but they would be investigated as such and possibly be recorded as "hate incidents".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6352083/Elderly-woman-questioned-police-hate-criminal-beeping-horn-slow-motorist.html
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:59 pm
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/bringing-home-bacon-vegan-offensive-idom-shareena-hamzah-phrases-animals-a8664796.html

Not satire
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:10 pm
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The original Conversation piece, while a little silly, is really arguing nothing more than that a future social shift away from meat-eating (something that I do think is objectively likely to occur) could affect the idioms we use (it's not actually advocating that we do so).

As for the rest of the article, forget it Jake, it's PETAtown.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:42 pm
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So social media and Quora is buzzing how offensive the classic 1948 holiday song 'Baby it's Cold Outside' is because it promotes date rape.

Take a listen and judge for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crFQpOCDfEc

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Prada came out with a set of monkey character trinkets, which have been withdrawn as it has been claimed they resemble 'blackface'. Aren't the people raising this being racist by saying the monkeys look like people of colour? Apparently the big red lips are the problem.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/prada-accused-of-blackface-monkey-trinkets-2018-12-1027810882

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