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Jezza Taurus

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:30 pm
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History repeats itself with South Africa backing a motion to confiscate land owned by white farmers. Interesting this has received very little coverage in the media.

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SOUTH Africa’s parliament has voted in favour of a motion that will begin the process of amending the country’s Constitution to allow for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation.

The motion was brought by Julius Malema, leader of the radical Marxist opposition party the Economic Freedom Fighters, and passed overwhelmingly by 241 votes to 83 against. The only parties who did not support the motion were the Democratic Alliance, Freedom Front Plus, Cope and the African Christian Democratic Party.

It was amended but supported by the ruling African National Congress and new president Cyril Ramaphosa, who made land expropriation a key pillar of his policy platform after taking over from ousted PM Jacob Zuma earlier this month.

“The time for reconciliation is over. Now is the time for justice,” Mr Malema was quoted by News24 as telling parliament. “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.”

According to Bloomberg, a 2017 government audit found white people owned 72 per cent of farmland in South Africa.


http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/the-time-for-reconciliation-is-over-south-africa-votes-to-confiscate-whiteowned-without-compensation/news-story/a8a81155995b1adc1c399d3576c4c0bc

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:12 pm
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Hadn’t seen that Jezza. Very disturbing but not surprising. I have long suspected that MAndela merely ensured that the collapse would be delayed and gradual at first, but not that it could be averted. Like in Zimbabwe, the biens-pensants will have moved on to the next feelgood cause while the poor and desperate scrabble among the consequences.

South Africa needed to change. But it needed technocratic excellence in doing so, not an ill educated and corrupt set of new rulers just as indifferent to the welfare of all of its people as Vorster or PW Botha.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:28 am
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scary that my mum and her older sister were shipped off to South Africa during the war because it was safer than England...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:10 am
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Take over the farms and not now how to work them plus no water equals natural attrition.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:53 pm
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beginning of the end of what's left of their economy if they start that shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:54 pm
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Enter Envy, disguised as Justice, with Murder, his servant....
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:10 pm
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There are a few South African retirees here in Thailand and they are doing it tough. The rand is stuffed and they are relying on family handouts to survive.
A retired diamond cutter I know used to visit the bar some 100 metres away from his house every day but now goes once every 3 or 4 months. He used to have 2 waters and 2 beers so it wasn;t as if he was burning it away. If his daughter visits from Bangkok where she at university she takes him down for 2 stubbies and she has one glass of white wine. The rand is about 20 percent of what he was getting when he moved here. He is near 80 and can't go back.he can't sell his house because it is in his ex Thai wifes name. If the country goes to crap what guarantee will there be that his pension fund won't be confiscated.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:14 am
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Things really are falling apart, Shocked

http://www.bbc.com/sport/triathlon/43313998

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:44 pm
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South Africa farm attacks: Brutal crimes landowners face

SOUTH Africans reveal the brutal conditions of life in everyday in the troubled nation and fear things will only get worse.

“In South Africa black people kill each other for as little as a cell phone or a few Rand,” she said. “Your car cannot be parked on your driveway outside your home as the theft of the car takes place in minutes.”

She said most white owned homes have barbed wire, alarm systems and burglar bars while car-jackings were a part of life.

400 farmers were attacked in 2017
75 were murdered

**watch the video**


http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/south-africa-farm-attacks-brutal-crimes-landowners-face/news-story/dfaabafca743056b6d6656ea1fff49eb
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:56 pm
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Heard of 'Black First Land First' ?

Charming group of South Africans, their motto is "LAND OR DEATH!"

Here's some of their material..


Whites must go back to Europe not Australia
POSTED ON MARCH 15, 2018
Black First Land First (BLF) welcomes the call by the Australian government for white land thieves to leave South Africa. However, BLF is totally opposed to the call that these land thieves must go to Australia. The colonial settler government of Australia has no right to invite more settler colonialists to Australia, a country that they have stolen from the indegenious people!

South African white farmers are land thieves from Europe. They must return to Europe.
BLF will be writing to the legitimate owners of Australia to warn them about the possible second invasion of their territory. BLF seeks to form relations with the Australian Aboriginal people.

Just Dandy hey??

Land expropriation without compensation in South Africa is not a license for land thieves to go and invade other territories. They must go back to Europe!
A straight swap for the 8 Million Africans that are now in Europe I wonder??

ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL COORDINATING COMMITTEE OF THE BLACK FIRST LAND FIRST MOVEMENT (BLF NCC)
15 March 2018

Black First Land First Email:blackfirstlandfirst@gmail.com
Facebook: Black First Land First
Twitter: @black1stland1st
Website: www.blf.org.za


BLF applauds fire on white Eshowe farm
POSTED ON MARCH 15, 2018

The people of Eshowe carried out brave revolutionary acts of justice today. The racist white farmers kill blacks like we are animals. We are tired of living under terrorism in our own land. The murderers who again murdered must never set foot on the farm. It now belongs to the people!

The facts in summary are that two black people were fishing in a river when one of the racist land thieves opened fire and murdered a young man in cold blood – killed for fishing. The community then responded with holy fire. It is prophesied in the holy bible that the sinner who refuses to repent shall be baptized with fire – see Matthew 3:11.

Black First Land First (BLF) welcomes the actions of the community. No politician, police or constitution will protect us blacks. We therefore have a God-given duty to defend ourselves. Farms where the murders of black people take place must be expropriated without compensation by the community. BLF is inspired by the revolutionary actions of the people of Eshowe. If we want freedom, we must charge forward like the brave blacks of Eshowe!

ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL COORDINATING COMMITTEE OF THE BLACK FIRST LAND FIRST MOVEMENT (BLF NCC)

15 March 2018

Black First Land First Email:blackfirstlandfirst@gmail.com
Facebook: Black First Land First
Twitter: @black1stland1st
Website: www.blf.org.za


The Anti Racism Bill of this mob makes interesting reading Confused Rolling Eyes

https://blf.org.za/the-anti-racism-bill-of-2017/

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:27 pm
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The Zimbabwean lesson is that the "freedom fighters" will kill all the animals for food including the dairy cows and eat all the crops and leave no seed. The farm machinery will break down through lack of maintainence and in 3 years they will be back where they srated except no money to buy anything. Then will come a destruction of the local non domesticated animals for food. Elephants etc. Tourism will virtually cease. Tribal wars will be worse than ever because they will have military weapons. Blood diamond trade wil increase 10 fold and collapse the market except for rare big stones.

The BLF would shit themselves if boatloads and plane loads of blacks were sent there from europe, the americas etc. That might happen though. The UN will have to send troops when the place goes to anarchy.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:30 pm
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^ well, you always get hotheads and borderline criminals. Hard to know if these are representative of a wide constituency, though.

Still, I fear it is a matter of time before SA goes down the Zimbabwe route. Most of the liberals will shudder and sigh and turn away, when the mobs descend on the farmers’ families. Those screams and dead thuds and broken lives will go unheard. Only white-on-black violence needs to be publicized and condemned. Most nice, well-meaning political liberals are only competitive for virtue with their own kind. They need to find people like them - in culture, class and race - to demonize, because only that will show them more radiant. Condemning violence against defenceless white people has no competitive value, in their race for goodness.

The really evil ones - and there are plenty of those in the Republic of Virtue - will knit in front of the guillotine and say that the beaten white families had it coming. Sadism feels best when it is wrapped in cheap collective morality.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:51 am
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What goes around comes around, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:08 pm
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ronrat wrote:
The Zimbabwean lesson is that the "freedom fighters" will kill all the animals for food including the dairy cows and eat all the crops and leave no seed. The farm machinery will break down through lack of maintainence and in 3 years they will be back where they srated except no money to buy anything. Then will come a destruction of the local non domesticated animals for food. Elephants etc. Tourism will virtually cease. Tribal wars will be worse than ever because they will have military weapons. Blood diamond trade wil increase 10 fold and collapse the market except for rare big stones.

The BLF would shit themselves if boatloads and plane loads of blacks were sent there from europe, the americas etc. That might happen though. The UN will have to send troops when the place goes to anarchy.


Not just that.

IIRC from what I read, once the Zimbabwean farmers were disposed of this farms, government official sold off most of the cattle (getting a good price at the top of the market) so the blacks who took over raised goats and destroyed what was once beautiful pasture. The rest follows on from what you wrote.

Land is no good to people if they don't have the ability to use it to feed themselves, but if they have AK47's, they can just eat whatever they can shoot until that's all gone too.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:20 pm
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I suppose it depends upon, amongst other things, whether you prefer pasture and cattle to goats.

When feudal overlords come in and subjugate entire peoples, it shouldn't surprise any of you that there's a bit of payback when the subjugators are ejected from power. That's the thing about revenge - it tends to be vengeful.
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