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K 



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:44 pm
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^ ... It has certainly not hurt Silvagni, Ablett, and Hawkins and Viney. But then, I played junior football with Ron Barassi junior (interesting name, which says something about dad) and though he was a good enough kid, he was clearly weighed down by the expectation....

This is getting interesting. First, what does it say about Sr? (I mean Ron and Gary Sr. were not at all alike personality-wise, right?) Was Ron Jr. passionate about football (the game itself)? Did he want an AFL career, or did he feel this was what others expected from him? How did coaches and teammates treat him?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:46 pm
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""? What does it say about Sr? And second?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:55 pm
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Some footy genes is the other on the list....hardly a plug for the guy.

Nicksters, how great an advantage (in football terms) do you think it is for an aspiring AFL footballer to be the son of a former AFL player?

A very interesting question.
My father was a champion footballer.
I was reasonable but too skinny and not enough G and D.
My son is the worst footballer I've seen.
And do you think that is harsh???
3 touches of the football in a whole season is pretty bad.
Thankfully for he and me he retired halfway through last years home and away season.
Do Genes make a difference ....not in my family.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:01 pm
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Way too early to tell. Good judges who have seen a lot more footballers than Iíve had hot breakfasts saw enough in him to elevate him to several AFL games in his first year. That seems promising enough at this stage. Heís about the same height as Tony Shaw, who would still have been a star in todayís game.

Maybe the ones who elevated him thought it was a good idea to sign Mayne to a four year deal.
Outsourcing your opinion isn't a wise move on a blogging site.
The question I asked was ...what aspect of him playing footy that you like? I have seen dozens of players in their first year and a bit that I liked what I saw. In Callum Brown I have seen nothing of interest. Now the guy must be given a decent chance ...at least 3 or 4 years to show his worth so i definitely want him on our list.
But I just want to know what have you actually seen that took your interest!


I didnít outsource my opinion, of course. I said it is way too early to tell. To answer your question, he has played 5 games and average 14 possessions. Against Port Adelaide, a game I attended, he was one of the reasons we made a surge after half time, extracting several centre clearances in his second game. He has not set the world on fire, but he sure as hell showed some in and under grit. And, of course, heís got footballing genes to spare.

Oh, and, er, failing to balance your relentless negativity with some positive observations is not a wise move on a blogging site.

So he has shown some in and under grit ...true.
But is that it?
Some footy genes is the other on the list....hardly a plug for the guy.


Having an influence on the game in your second outing is quite something, Iíd have thought. I recall Pendleburys first few games. Nothing that special. I looked up his stats, and in his first 9 games he averaged 12 disposals a game. So, itís just too early to tell. CBís issue is that heís so damn short, but then so was Tony Shaw, so is Blair. Time will tell which of these two CB turns out to be more like.


Personally, I think where the game is headed right now, it will suit Brown perfectly. The game is all about pressure and retaining the ball in your own forward line. Nobody knew who Butler and Castagna were before they became premiership players. They donít kick goals, they arenít big and they arenít overly skilful ( as opposed to Tigers Rioli who is ) but they had the ability to apply relentless repeat pressure when it was their turn to go.
These guys donít even have the tank to play mid field but Callum does.

I see Brown as a forward pressure player and also having the extra string in the bowl to go into the mid field and give a chop out.
Heís probably two preseasons away, given his first one was ruined by glandular fever. To me, heís got Caleb Daniel written all over him ( another premiership player )
Watch this space.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:07 pm
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masoncox wrote:
K wrote:
masoncox wrote:
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Some footy genes is the other on the list....hardly a plug for the guy.

Nicksters, how great an advantage (in football terms) do you think it is for an aspiring AFL footballer to be the son of a former AFL player?

A very interesting question.
My father was a champion footballer.
I was reasonable but too skinny and not enough G and D.
My son is the worst footballer I've seen.
And do you think that is harsh???
3 touches of the football in a whole season is pretty bad.
Thankfully for he and me he retired halfway through last years home and away season.
Do Genes make a difference ....not in my family.


Yeah, my old man was a minor VFL footballer - a few senior games for North and Footscray. But my mother had no sporting prowess at all. I am more like her than him, and I was an ok player but never going to progress beyond junior level. Both sets of genes matter. And then thereís the x-factor thatís all you, it seems.

Canít answer your question about junior Barrass, K. Just didnít know him well enough. I know we were in awe of him when he arrived at Heathmont junior FC and then when he turned out to be just ok he probably got rougher treatment than most. As I said, he seemed a good enough kid but itís long ago. Being the child of an icon in a field where pure talent rules canít be easy unless you have all of Dadís talent.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:42 am
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K wrote:
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Nicksters, how great an advantage (in football terms) do you think it is for an aspiring AFL footballer to be the son of a former AFL player?

A very interesting question.
My father was a champion footballer.
I was reasonable but too skinny and not enough G and D.
My son is the worst footballer I've seen.
...
Do Genes make a difference ....not in my family.

Can this reasonably be blamed on your family's maternal side, mc?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:59 am
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I see Callum Brown as a contested ball winner in the mode of a Weller, or a Neale. He's a accumulator of the ball more than a run and carry player, who handballs more than kicks and as above, can apply forward pressure around the ball. Until he builds up his body a bit more, his weakness is he gets pushed off the ball. Also his decision making at times is poor, almost entirely due to his inexperience as an AFL footballer. If he gets a game at the start of the season I see him improving with each game and consolidating his position in the team by the middle of the season.
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masoncox wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
masoncox wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Way too early to tell. Good judges who have seen a lot more footballers than Iíve had hot breakfasts saw enough in him to elevate him to several AFL games in his first year. That seems promising enough at this stage. Heís about the same height as Tony Shaw, who would still have been a star in todayís game.

Maybe the ones who elevated him thought it was a good idea to sign Mayne to a four year deal.
Outsourcing your opinion isn't a wise move on a blogging site.
The question I asked was ...what aspect of him playing footy that you like? I have seen dozens of players in their first year and a bit that I liked what I saw. In Callum Brown I have seen nothing of interest. Now the guy must be given a decent chance ...at least 3 or 4 years to show his worth so i definitely want him on our list.
But I just want to know what have you actually seen that took your interest!


I didnít outsource my opinion, of course. I said it is way too early to tell. To answer your question, he has played 5 games and average 14 possessions. Against Port Adelaide, a game I attended, he was one of the reasons we made a surge after half time, extracting several centre clearances in his second game. He has not set the world on fire, but he sure as hell showed some in and under grit. And, of course, heís got footballing genes to spare.

Oh, and, er, failing to balance your relentless negativity with some positive observations is not a wise move on a blogging site.

So he has shown some in and under grit ...true.
But is that it?
Some footy genes is the other on the list....hardly a plug for the guy.


Having an influence on the game in your second outing is quite something, Iíd have thought. I recall Pendleburys first few games. Nothing that special. I looked up his stats, and in his first 9 games he averaged 12 disposals a game. So, itís just too early to tell. CBís issue is that heís so damn short, but then so was Tony Shaw, so is Blair. Time will tell which of these two CB turns out to be more like.


Both premiership players so I'll be happy if he's like either

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:21 pm
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Game today added a lot of evidence. The kid has it. Only question is how good he will be.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:39 pm
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Game today added a lot of evidence. The kid has it. Only question is how good he will be.


Exactly, if you don't rate this kid, sorry, you're a muppet and you should go back to your video games and comic books.

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Game today added a lot of evidence. The kid has it. Only question is how good he will be.


Exactly, if you don't rate this kid, sorry, you're a muppet and you should go back to your video games and comic books.


The kid looks ok but it's too early to say how good he will be. The question marks are on his pace, size, and kicking depth.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:40 am
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An upgrade on Blair. I guess that's a good thing
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Skids wrote:
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Game today added a lot of evidence. The kid has it. Only question is how good he will be.


Exactly, if you don't rate this kid, sorry, you're a muppet and you should go back to your video games and comic books.


Thank You

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He'll be ok Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:14 am
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At the ripe old age of 19, sadly Callum is long in the tooth already. My motto is that players should only have one single game to prove themselves and if they can't, just show them the door. Development and patience is overrated Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:05 pm
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I am for giving the boys more time...all for it.
But the question is .....what do you see....because I don't see much at this point.
Legit question.

Yeah I have definitely watched him closely these last two games.
He definitely has some talent.
Interesting to see how he goes in the next few weeks.
I await his coming out with interest.
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