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Jezza
2023 PREMIERS!
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David
I dare you to try
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Not sure I quite understand the point, other than to distance herself from a toxic brand ... but how on earth is she supposed to do that when she campaigned with them, is their sole public face, and everyone knows she will go straight back to being their leader after the election? _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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David
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Getting a fair bit of déjà vu about this. Macron seems to think he has this in the bag, all the polls are pointing his way, and yet... _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Pies4shaw
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David
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Well, if all else fails in the world, at least French political polling can be depended upon!
A huge relief, this result. Let's just hope that his neo-liberal policies aren't a one-way road to disaster. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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RIP France. |
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watt price tully
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A smashing. Rejection of neo nazis despite:
1. Their new found PR changes to envelop a cloak of respectability;
2. Russian Wiki interference; and,
3. Low voter turn out.
All of which operate if not conspire against Macron
Le Pen is utterly demolished in this election.
Vive Le France _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough†Kinky Friedman |
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Wokko
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Waiting for the cries of sexism and misogyny from feminists and The Left being the reason for Le Pen's defeat.
Still waiting. |
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Pies4shaw
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It's very important that we make sure that the Nazis get to poll on an even playing field. |
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Pies4shaw
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David wrote: | Well, if all else fails in the world, at least French political polling can be depended upon!
A huge relief, this result. Let's just hope that his neo-liberal policies aren't a one-way road to disaster. |
They probably are. If they are, however, it will likely be a shared disaster - not just one visited deliberately upon minorities and the otherwise helpless. |
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Pies4shaw
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I don't think it's quite RIP. The Socialists will be back to sort things out for us, soon enough. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Who told you that? |
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Pies4shaw
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Un petit oiseau. |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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The best result, under the circs. There is a slim chance that macron may turn out to be more than he seems, with positive results if so. There was little chance of that with Le Pen, and if it had happened in her case, the results would probably have been largely malignant.
None of this is likely, however, to address the historic crisis which France must face. It is in deep denial about its predicament ; locked into a monetary union with a far more competitive economy, profoundly unattractive as a destination for inward investment, its vested interests are powerful, reactionary and recalcitrant, its culture under threat from Islam and its political fabric scissored by terrorism and structural unemployment. All of this is disguised, for now, by a national conversation that refuses to admit the problem. Like an awkward dinner party guest, however, the problem will keep on butting in, more loudly as this long evening of France wears away.
Marxists, who thought of history as a Meccano set, used to love talking about the "contradictions" in capitalism, as though it was a bridge bearing too much weight. France, beset by a real contradiction between its desires and the price of those desires, and bearing the deadweight of the Euro, is living on a real contradiction that will eventually plunge it into crisis. Nothing in Macron's rhetoric suggests that he has any real plan to steer the ship away from the rocks. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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