Collingwood Father Son and NGA Radar

[dalyc]

I'm hope the club has this in hand. If the boys start performing like top picks, they'll surely get calf soreness later in the season.

[AN_Inkling]

[qldmagpie67]

[AN_Inkling]

Keeffe's a very useful asset. A giant at 204cm who can play both ends and has good foot skills. He's had two years to work on his main weakness: strength. If he comes back with a decent amount of extra muscle he could be very handy. After sticking with him through two years of suspension, we won't be trading him unless he stinks it up on return.

Thomas could be decent depth, but he was always a fringe player, two years out won't have helped that. At the trade table he wouldn't have a lot of value so he's probably worth more to keep.

We could trade a half back if we needed to. It's not something we need to do though, because the game is made up of runners now, those runners can be on half back or in the midfield and you need a lot of them.

In going after Brown and/or Daicos, I think it's unlikely we'd need to or want to trade players who are part of our established 22 like Williams. That takes us backwards and we've done enough of that over the last few years. If we traded established players we'd look for one in return. For Daics or Brown we'd trade a second rounder from next year if we had to or players near the bottom of our list. That's assuming their stocks don't rise massively in the next few months. If they do (I don't think there's much chance given their size) we're in a very difficult situation, because trading out established players for rookies is not a good move at this point.

[qldmagpie67]

[Pies4shaw]

I'd trade Williams in a heartbeat for anything useful - but I doubt that he'd bring much in the way of bids.

I don't understand at all why people on here accepted that Heater could be traded and openly contemplate trading one of the best KPFs to play for the Club for a stale packet of potato chips, yet struggle to contemplate parting with a fast, one-sided under-skilled player because he's "best 22".

Keeffe's absence has been very damaging. I don't know what I think about keeping him and Thomas, save that, so far, they've been part of the problem, rather than part of the solution. We do need quality, experienced KPPs, though. Brown and Reid need back-up and, forward of centre, we have one (is it uncontroversial to at least describe him as?) moderately well-performed KPF - he's in the seconds, so there's obviously a "position vacant" sign hanging out for any established quality player who can grab a few marks and kick a few goals. That sign has been up since Dawes got injured 5 seasons ago and, so far, none of the successful applicants has been able to perform to the required standard.

[AN_Inkling]

[AN_Inkling]

[HAL]

Oh. What about after its done?

[duke750]

It's interesting that our backline has 4 left footers who are all effectively one-sided and exposed when caught on their right foot. Reid doesn't appear to be too much of a liability, and Brown is marginal. Now that Toovey has lost a bit of pace he can look really lost on his wrong side. Williams has had a good couple of seasons where his pace and mongrel served him well, but he has lost some edge and from what I've seen this year he gets caught too often in no mans land.

I have said previously that Toovey, as a premiership player, should become a mentor for young players in the VFL. If Keefe comes back OK Brown might need to play that role at the club too.

Williams becomes redundant if some of the younger running backs develop as they should, including Sharenberg.

Like most people on this forum I will be really disappointed if a young Daicos or Brown ends up at another club; even more so if they turn into good footballers. However, I strongly believe that our recruiting focus must be on a young, strong KPF to help set up a potent forward line that will serve us for a number of years.

[On the March]

Our recruiters would have known these guys were coming, had a fair idea of their worth and planned accordingly

[Dave The Man]

Josh Daicos Broke his Hand and is out for at least 6 weeks

[jackcass]

[AN_Inkling]

[Woods Of Ypres]