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stui magpie 
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The thing that messes with this debate and issue is that pretty much none of the medical benefits from Marijuana come from the THC (as I understand it) which causes the average dope smoker to use it.
So, theoretically, medicinal marijuana would be engineered to give the same amount of a buzz as Oregano.
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| partypie wrote: | | A friends mum with terminal cancer is using a spray. She is not taking painkillers and her chronic arthritis for the first time in years is not bothering her. |
That's interesting.
How about driving though? Does it actually make you high? Does it show up on drug tests?
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Skids 
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| stui magpie wrote: | The thing that messes with this debate and issue is that pretty much none of the medical benefits from Marijuana come from the THC (as I understand it) which causes the average dope smoker to use it.
So, theoretically, medicinal marijuana would be engineered to give the same amount of a buzz as Oregano. |
No, not correct Stui.
Many people choose to medicate with a combination of different strains. The ‘high’ effects of Sativa strains make them a better choice during the day, when wakefulness is desirable, whereas the relaxing effects of Indica varieties often make them more suitable for evening and nighttime use.
http://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/about-sensi-seeds/sensi-seeds-and-medicinal-cannabis/how-to-choose-a-medicinal-cannabis-strain/
http://www.medicalmarijuanastrains.com/tag/16-18-thc/
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Skids
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This will be interesting when medicinal marijuana is legalised. The testing for dope now is crazy, it can show up in a urine sample for weeks, sometimes months.
How to Manage Workplace Safety Issues Around Medical Marijuana
Medical marijuana became more easily accessible in April when the rules around who can authorize the drug changed in Canada. Clinics specializing in writing medical marijuana prescriptions are going up in Toronto, and others are planned for Edmonton, Calgary, and Halifax. This has many employers trying to prepare themselves for the expected influx of authorized users and the workplace safety issues that will come with it. To help you with this, we have some suggestions on how to minimize the risks.
From an alcohol and drug testing perspective, users of medical marijuana will test positive at the laboratory (marijuana is marijuana, whether medical or illicit).
For non-regulated workplace testing programs, we intend to apply the same MRO review process to medical marijuana circumstances that we do for any prescribed medication, meaning the donor will have to provide proof of valid medical authorization for use to the MRO before the MRO can downgrade the laboratory positive test result to an MRO negative determination.
http://www.drivercheck.ca/manage-workplace-safety-issues-around-medical-marijuana/
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stui magpie
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That's interesting and I find it contradictory.
If the purpose of testing for cannabis in the workplace is because of the potential for impairment which then impacts workplace safety, then prescribed or not the impairment is still there as are the safety issues. 
In that case, either someone shouldn't be allowed to work even with a medical certificate or the whole testing regime should be scrapped or a 'safe level' identified (like 0.05BAC) and worked around.
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I always figured the testing for cannabis was to weed out the stoners and slackers and have a ready excuse to fire them  |
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stui magpie
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And if it was, they shot themselves in the foot didn't they. 
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| think positive wrote: | | partypie wrote: | | A friends mum with terminal cancer is using a spray. She is not taking painkillers and her chronic arthritis for the first time in years is not bothering her. |
That's interesting.
How about driving though? Does it actually make you high? Does it show up on drug tests? |
The lady in question isn't driving as far as I know. The stuff she's on is low in thc which is the compound that gets you high, and high in cbc, which is the medicinal component. Her family are a bit stunned by the effect on the arthritis, they are saying it's due to the cannabis, as she's not taking any other medication at all. She chose not to have chemo, the cancer was really advanced when it was detected, and she's doing quite well even though she can't beat it.
I'm guessing it probably wouldn't show up in a test, as the test would be for thc. |
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Skids
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
That's interesting and I find it contradictory.
If the purpose of testing for cannabis in the workplace is because of the potential for impairment which then impacts workplace safety, then prescribed or not the impairment is still there as are the safety issues.
In that case, either someone shouldn't be allowed to work even with a medical certificate or the whole testing regime should be scrapped or a 'safe level' identified (like 0.05BAC) and worked around. |
The most popular kind of drug test is the urine test, which can detect marijuana for days or weeks after use. Note that urine tests do not detect the psychoactive component in marijuana, THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), and therefore in no way measure impairment; rather, they detect the non-psychoactive marijuana metabolite THC-COOH, which can linger in the body for days and weeks with no impairing effects. Because of THC-COOH's unusually long elimination time, urine tests are more sensitive to marijuana than other commonly used drugs.
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Thanks for the explanation Skids, the sooner it's legalised the better.
My friend rang me earlier, her mum is going well.
Some nurses at the palliative care unit my brother was in said it was worth trying. |
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| partypie wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | partypie wrote: | | A friends mum with terminal cancer is using a spray. She is not taking painkillers and her chronic arthritis for the first time in years is not bothering her. |
That's interesting.
How about driving though? Does it actually make you high? Does it show up on drug tests? |
The lady in question isn't driving as far as I know. The stuff she's on is low in thc which is the compound that gets you high, and high in cbc, which is the medicinal component. Her family are a bit stunned by the effect on the arthritis, they are saying it's due to the cannabis, as she's not taking any other medication at all. She chose not to have chemo, the cancer was really advanced when it was detected, and she's doing quite well even though she can't beat it.
I'm guessing it probably wouldn't show up in a test, as the test would be for thc. |
That's really great thanks, and I hope she continues to have the improved health. Sometimes when it gets so bad, quality of life is more important than quantity, cheers mate xxx
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HAL
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Skids
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| HAL wrote: | | Better than what? |
Cuttin' off your knob with a blunt hacksaw blade.
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