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How do you feel about the police?
$#@% tha po-lice
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I don't like what they stand for, but have no problem with them individually.
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They're a necessary evil.
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They're just ordinary people doing a job that needs to be done.
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They're great. Melbourne's finest!
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I have no particular feelings towards them either way.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:04 pm
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Pretty much every society has had someone in charge and people tasked with enforcing the laws.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:05 pm
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David wrote:
Given the intrigue that goes on in some Lesbian nightclubs, I'm pretty sure that island would still need policewomen. Razz
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:12 am
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On the other hand, these people are police officers too:

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/16/police-may-have-acted-illegally-in-search-for-facebook-memes-mocking-officers

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:34 am
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I watched the footage of them going into the Bataclan night club with their Kevlar jackets and helmets, and thought that their job was a hundred times more difficult than mine, and how much they are on my side when there is real evil abroad. of course they have to be kept accountable, but thank God we have men and women who will play their role, and play it most of the time very well despite incredible social and personal stress.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:22 am
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Mugwump wrote:
I watched the footage of them going into the Bataclan night club with their Kevlar jackets and helmets, and thought that their job was a hundred times more difficult than mine, and how much they are on my side when there is real evil abroad. of course they have to be kept accountable, but thank God we have men and women who will play their role, and play it most of the time very well despite incredible social and personal stress.


Amen to that.

(As long as they ain't checking out Facebook! OMG David, really?!!!!)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:26 am
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luvdids wrote:
David wrote:
This is the thing. I treated this guy yesterday as a human being and he treated me the same. No prejudice either way.


But, why wouldn't you? Did you have to make a conscious effort to treat him as a human being? Seems like a strange thing to say otherwise..

Anyway, any disparaging remarks about people, anywhere, being police officers after the tragic events in Paris? Seriously, you couldn't pay me enough to be a cop and be on the front line of that sort of stuff. Back to the poll options - they're definitely not 'just ordinary people'.


Agre with both parts of this post.

David seriously, you can't see how arrogant your posting is on this? You knock others for judging all the time, and yet how judgemental ar you when it comes to figures in authority? Every criminal in your mind has a right to an excuse, yet the cops are held to a seperate standard.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:47 am
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think positive wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
I watched the footage of them going into the Bataclan night club with their Kevlar jackets and helmets, and thought that their job was a hundred times more difficult than mine, and how much they are on my side when there is real evil abroad. of course they have to be kept accountable, but thank God we have men and women who will play their role, and play it most of the time very well despite incredible social and personal stress.


Amen to that.

(As long as they ain't checking out Facebook! OMG David, really?!!!!)


Just read what they had to do going into that nightclub. Two by two, stepping through doors into rooms unknowing about what was on the other side, facing men wearing suicide vests. Thank God for the police in a functioning liberal democracy.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:58 am
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think positive wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
I watched the footage of them going into the Bataclan night club with their Kevlar jackets and helmets, and thought that their job was a hundred times more difficult than mine, and how much they are on my side when there is real evil abroad. of course they have to be kept accountable, but thank God we have men and women who will play their role, and play it most of the time very well despite incredible social and personal stress.


Amen to that.

(As long as they ain't checking out Facebook! OMG David, really?!!!!)


Just read what they had to do going into that nightclub. Two by two, stepping through doors into rooms unknowing about what was on the other side, facing men wearing suicide vests. Thank God for the police in a functioning liberal democracy.


Yeah, I don't know how you do that, so amazingly brave, all of them. True heroes. My sisters a cop, I don't know how they do it, having no idea what is going to happen that day, but having a pretty goodideatheywill see something they would rather not.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:18 am
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^ yes indeed. Like all human institutions, they can go wrong, at times, but they're our internal army and we need them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:41 pm
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Might need to re-word the thread title to 'how do you feel about AUSTRALIAN police'...

Glad we don't have American cops over here....
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/11/25/14/35/chicago-cop-jason-van-dyke-charged-with-shooting-murder-of-black-teen-laquan-McDonald

Still wouldn't envy being a police officer in any country, but the "shoot first ask questions later" mentality seems to still be around too much for my liking.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:19 pm
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luvdids wrote:
the "shoot first ask questions later" mentality seems to still be around too much for my liking.


Now be fair. He didn't shoot much. What's a mere 16 shots between friends? Anyway, the other chap was black. Everybody knows killing a black kid isn't really murder.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:23 pm
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In most of these cases there has been mitigating circumstances (from weapons, to attacks to charging the officer) and the officers have been released without charge. This case however is clearly just a thug who thinks he can murder with impunity. Makes you wonder how many cases of police shootings that don't have video are the same.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:30 pm
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Keep in mind the American cops are conditioned to expect every fuckstick they approach has a hidden weapon, usually a gun. If you don't shoot first you may not get a chance to shoot at all.

If a cop pulls you over in the US you sit up straight and put both hands on the wheel where they're visible and don't be a smartarse.

Doesn't excuse that bloke in the link, there's fucksticks everywhere, but just pointing out the cultural differences.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:08 am
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NSW Police accused of failing alleged domestic violence victim.

Pretty piss poor by someone in this incident.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nsw-police-accused-of-failing-alleged-domestic-violence-victim/ar-BBnyyCI?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=sl5mdhp

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:42 am
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Gees that's disgusting

And gees I hope she left

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