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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:04 pm
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How about Jarrad Grant?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:11 pm
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I highly doubt any of Stevens,Hawkins or Dangerfield would leave there clubs.

So you think Hine and Co have no F**King idea with Trades and Free Agency?


Not quite. But I don't think their track record with recycled and 2nd string players has been crash hot, let me put it that way.

Even Leigh Brown wasn't all that good, but he was really a case of the right guy at the right time with the right role in the right place...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:17 pm
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MagpieBat wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:

I highly doubt any of Stevens,Hawkins or Dangerfield would leave there clubs.

So you think Hine and Co have no F**King idea with Trades and Free Agency?


Not quite. But I don't think their track record with recycled and 2nd string players has been crash hot, let me put it that way.

Even Leigh Brown wasn't all that good, but he was really a case of the right guy at the right time with the right role in the right place...


Do any other team have Records on Getting Recyled players and 2nd Stringers?

All Teams do it and majority of time they Fail to come good

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:49 pm
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MagpieBat wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:

I highly doubt any of Stevens,Hawkins or Dangerfield would leave there clubs.

So you think Hine and Co have no F**King idea with Trades and Free Agency?


Not quite. But I don't think their track record with recycled and 2nd string players has been crash hot, let me put it that way.

Even Leigh Brown wasn't all that good, but he was really a case of the right guy at the right time with the right role in the right place...


I agree, haven't been a fan of recruiting some of these blokes but club has indicated it was more a short term strategy to fill the void left be so many recently departed senior players. I can understand the strategy but personally would have opted for more kids. You do run the risk of setting up an age/experience profile similar to GCS and GWS, and we know how well they've gone over the last few seasons, but there is greater risk-reward potential.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:00 pm
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jackcass wrote:
MagpieBat wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:

I highly doubt any of Stevens,Hawkins or Dangerfield would leave there clubs.

So you think Hine and Co have no F**King idea with Trades and Free Agency?


Not quite. But I don't think their track record with recycled and 2nd string players has been crash hot, let me put it that way.

Even Leigh Brown wasn't all that good, but he was really a case of the right guy at the right time with the right role in the right place...


I agree, haven't been a fan of recruiting some of these blokes but club has indicated it was more a short term strategy to fill the void left be so many recently departed senior players. I can understand the strategy but personally would have opted for more kids. You do run the risk of setting up an age/experience profile similar to GCS and GWS, and we know how well they've gone over the last few seasons, but there is greater risk-reward potential.


Teams donít take Kids to fill Holeís as you have to give them a few seasons to Develop but Mature Ages can fill a hole for a time until a kids the Develop takes his spot or get someone better

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:54 pm
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I can't see Hawkins leaving as Stui explained earlier but I can see Dangerfield and possibly Rory Sloane leaving the Crows to return back to Victoria especially if Adelaide have a poor year next year and don't pay them bigger salaries than they are on currently.

I think if Dangerfield did return to Victoria he'd go to Geelong because he's from the area, used to barrack for them as a kid and with potentially more retirements Geelong could have more cap space to obtain him.

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How about Jarrad Grant?

No way! He's useless and is still as skinny as ever! Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:23 am
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Dave The Man wrote:
jackcass wrote:
MagpieBat wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:

I highly doubt any of Stevens,Hawkins or Dangerfield would leave there clubs.

So you think Hine and Co have no F**King idea with Trades and Free Agency?


Not quite. But I don't think their track record with recycled and 2nd string players has been crash hot, let me put it that way.

Even Leigh Brown wasn't all that good, but he was really a case of the right guy at the right time with the right role in the right place...


I agree, haven't been a fan of recruiting some of these blokes but club has indicated it was more a short term strategy to fill the void left be so many recently departed senior players. I can understand the strategy but personally would have opted for more kids. You do run the risk of setting up an age/experience profile similar to GCS and GWS, and we know how well they've gone over the last few seasons, but there is greater risk-reward potential.


Teams donít take Kids to fill Holeís as you have to give them a few seasons to Develop but Mature Ages can fill a hole for a time until a kids the Develop takes his spot or get someone better


As I indicated, I understand all of that Dave, but equally a kid can have a Langdon like 1st year and you unearth a possible 10+ year 200 gamer. Risk - reward is greater and I'd prefer to take the chance to unearth a 2015 Langdonesque type player than have a player like Armstrong or Young on the list. It's not so much a knock on them as you know what they can offer and they can fill a short term role, just greater potential for more.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:19 pm
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jackcass wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
jackcass wrote:
MagpieBat wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:

I highly doubt any of Stevens,Hawkins or Dangerfield would leave there clubs.

So you think Hine and Co have no F**King idea with Trades and Free Agency?


Not quite. But I don't think their track record with recycled and 2nd string players has been crash hot, let me put it that way.

Even Leigh Brown wasn't all that good, but he was really a case of the right guy at the right time with the right role in the right place...


I agree, haven't been a fan of recruiting some of these blokes but club has indicated it was more a short term strategy to fill the void left be so many recently departed senior players. I can understand the strategy but personally would have opted for more kids. You do run the risk of setting up an age/experience profile similar to GCS and GWS, and we know how well they've gone over the last few seasons, but there is greater risk-reward potential.


Teams donít take Kids to fill Holeís as you have to give them a few seasons to Develop but Mature Ages can fill a hole for a time until a kids the Develop takes his spot or get someone better


As I indicated, I understand all of that Dave, but equally a kid can have a Langdon like 1st year and you unearth a possible 10+ year 200 gamer. Risk - reward is greater and I'd prefer to take the chance to unearth a 2015 Langdonesque type player than have a player like Armstrong or Young on the list. It's not so much a knock on them as you know what they can offer and they can fill a short term role, just greater potential for more.


Well - Teams have shown that they are not always taking that Risk as much as they do.

They more Likely take Risks like that with Rookie Picks.

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 7:47 pm
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MagpieBat wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:

I highly doubt any of Stevens,Hawkins or Dangerfield would leave there clubs.

So you think Hine and Co have no F**King idea with Trades and Free Agency?


Not quite. But I don't think their track record with recycled and 2nd string players has been crash hot, let me put it that way.

Even Leigh Brown wasn't all that good, but he was really a case of the right guy at the right time with the right role in the right place...


Jolly, Ball, Tarrant weren't bad. Jesse might still come good and Levi we haven't seen to judge.

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