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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:28 pm
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Culprit wrote:
Tannin wrote:
Amazing stuff, Wokko. It's a bit of a gobsmacker: boiled down, Bolt is saying that the recipe to fix the Abbott' government's sustained unpopularity is to bring in more policies like the widely disliked ones they already brought in or tried to bring in. In short, says Bolt, if you are in a hole, dig even deeper. The mind boggles.
Great Description, I could not have said it better.


Yeah, I read the Bolta manuscript ( no I didn't write it) and had a few WTF moments.
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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:02 pm
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Rookie question, perhaps, but why would Abbott have to declare a scholarship granted to his adult daughter?


He wouldn't, but that doesn't really fit the narrative does it?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:05 pm
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I don't get what you're all reading. Pretty much Blot is saying "screw the lefties who hate you, give us conservatives what we want".

In effect letting Abbott know he's never going to win any friends to the left of Malcolm Turnbull so stop trying and start doing what a Liberal government should be doing, which is lowering spending and taxes and shrinking government.

What we have at the moment is a bizarre version of Howard's culture war but without any culture, just some unpopular and unwanted ideology mixed in with Big Government spying, spending and lack of vision.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:13 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHNXdHai0g

Julia Gillard was a Liar so what's Abbott? Laughing
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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:15 pm
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Culprit wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHNXdHai0g

Julia Gillard was a Liar so what's Abbott? Laughing


Ummm, a non core promise? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:22 pm
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Wokko wrote:
Culprit wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHNXdHai0g

Julia Gillard was a Liar so what's Abbott? Laughing


Ummm, a non core promise? Laughing
"We shouldn't have taken him at face value". Malcolm Turdbull. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:23 pm
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I counted 5.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:11 pm
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Wokko wrote:
David wrote:
Rookie question, perhaps, but why would Abbott have to declare a scholarship granted to his adult daughter?


He wouldn't, but that doesn't really fit the narrative does it?


Despite what Wokko says an undeclared and gift of $60,000+ is against the rules of the Australian Parliament and fits the "Tony Abbott is a self-righteous idiot with his snout firmly lodged in the trough" narrative to a tee!

Members have to declare their financial interests (including gifts) not just to themselves but also gifts to their family.
At the time of Francis gaining that err "scholarship" she was finishing high-school and was a wholly dependent on her father's finances.

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http://www.aph.gov.au/parliamentary_business/committees/house_of_representatives_committees?url=pmi/declarations.htm

Register of Members' Interests
43rd Parliament: Members' Interests statements
Within 28 days of making an oath or affirmation, each Member is required to provide to the Registrar of Members' Interests a statement of the Member’s registrable interests. The registrable interests of which the Member is aware of the Member’s spouse and any children wholly or mainly dependent on the Member for support must also be included in the statement. The statement is to include:...

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The Australian Parliament’s Registrar of Members’ Interests Ms Surtees said that the ‘Resolution of the House’ – the rules governing disclosure of members’ interests – does not make a distinction between gifts, scholarships and awards based on merit.




Her scholarship was not granted on any merit except she was Abbott's daughter and the possibilities that connection might mean for the school involved.

https://newmatilda.com/2014/05/21/leaked-documents-cast-doubt-abbotts-60k-scholarship-claims

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Les Taylor knew the Abbott family. [Frances] wanted to do something related to creativity and styling. She was going to go to one of our competitors. I think it was Billy Blue (a design school in North Sydney),” the source told NM.
A few years later, in the run-up to the 2013 federal election, Ms Whitehouse became increasingly excited at the prospect of a Liberal win, the staffer said.
“She said to me something like, ‘Do you know what this could mean to Whitehouse if [Abbott] gets in?’


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:25 am
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Are the LNP Minsters becoming addicted to the high profile waking the world stage is bringing them while ignoring the issues back home?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:15 am
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Do as I say not as I do party.
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Wokko Pisces

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http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/failing-the-pub-test-alan-jones-blasts-tony-abbott-over-governments-free-trade-deal-with-china-20141116-11o0cp.html

First Bolt turns on him, now Alan Jones is turning on the PM too. Like I said to all you pinkos around here, the Right doesn't like Tone too much either.

If the Left despises you, the Right has turned on you and the Center was never yours to begin with, where the hell do you go from here?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:01 pm
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Jones's listeners would probably rather eat razorblades than vote Labor, even in protest. I doubt Abbott will lose too much sleep over raising the old fool's ire.

Now, if Murdoch turns against him, that'll be a different story.

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:33 pm
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David wrote:
Jones's listeners would probably rather eat razorblades than vote Labor, even in protest. I doubt Abbott will lose too much sleep over raising the old fool's ire.

Now, if Murdoch turns against him, that'll be a different story.


I've pointed this out before, but when Gillard faced the polls against Abbott, the Herald Sun editorial said to vote Labor.

If you want to look for it, I posted a link previously.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:09 am
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They also backed Rudd in 2007, I believe. Both won their respective elections.
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Not many people say both.
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