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since im a pom, ill save my view!!
(but I will add nothing will ever beat the unsportsmanship of THAT underarm bowl!!)
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8920794
over reaction? by the Aussies or the Kiwis?
is it fair to get tin their face when they get to do the war dance?
is this another racial thang! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Tannin
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The Kiwis are allowed to do their dumb haka, which is a traditional dance designed to intimidate other groups; any group doing likewise right back at them can only be a good thing. What makes the Kiwis think they are the only ones allowed to act like dickheads? _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Wokko
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I don't understand the point of premeditated responses to the Haka. Just let them do it, smile, clap if they did a good one then get on with the game. |
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David
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Better than everyone else standing around awkwardly, right? The haka is done purely for theatre, so I can't see why a bit of theatre on the other side hurts.
Besides, surely any boring rugby game would be improved by a good all-in brawl at the beginning. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Perhaps better, but not perfectly. |
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King Monkey
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The Haka is an invitation to "war" ("compete" would be a better word in a sporting context) and is designed to intimidate the opponent.
Those Aussie boys standing up to it is a case of - you're doing it right!!!!
The exceptions in this case were - the few on the end that stepped over the halfway line, (only mildly), but that fkn blonde clown with that smirk on his smart arse head deserved to have it knocked off!!
Turning their backs (ala the Wallabies a few years ago who got beaten by 50 odd points!! ) and/or openly mocking it (ala Victor Matfield, former Captain of South Africa), are actions that are the height of disrespect. _________________ "I am a great sage, equal of heaven.
Grow stick, grow.
Fly cloud, fly.
Oh you are a dee-mon, I love to fiiight." |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
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King Monkey wrote: | The Haka is an invitation to "war" ("compete" would be a better word in a sporting context) and is designed to intimidate the opponent.
Those Aussie boys standing up to it is a case of - you're doing it right!!!!
The exceptions in this case were - the few on the end that stepped over the halfway line, (only mildly), but that fkn blonde clown with that smirk on his smart arse head deserved to have it knocked off!!
Turning their backs (ala the Wallabies a few years ago who got beaten by 50 odd points!! ) and/or openly mocking it (ala Victor Matfield, former Captain of South Africa), are actions that are the height of disrespect. |
a couple of the other pacific island nations have their own version of the haka. iirc, the fijians have a more threatening version where they charge at the opposition.
i think the kiwis are being a little oversensitive but, having said that, the aussies should be more culturally aware and respectful. _________________ Purveyor of sanctimonious twaddle. |
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King Monkey
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Lol, JW.
Majority Kiwi view is compatible with mine - but you'll always get a perception of a view from the people who make themselves heard loudest; ie, people who need to have something to complain about.
The general consensus is that it's great somebody had the balls to eyeball a version of the Haka face-to-face.
The only real disrespect was from that blonde goose. _________________ "I am a great sage, equal of heaven.
Grow stick, grow.
Fly cloud, fly.
Oh you are a dee-mon, I love to fiiight." |
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King Monkey
Joined: 15 Apr 2009 Location: On a journey to seek the scriptures of enlightenment....
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Tannin wrote: | The Kiwis are allowed to do their dumb haka, which is a traditional dance designed to intimidate other groups; any group doing likewise right back at them can only be a good thing. What makes the Kiwis think they are the only ones allowed to act like dickheads? |
I know you're taking the piss, no harm in that!!!!
But, would you make the same comment about an Aboriginal war dance?????
Yeah, thought not.......... _________________ "I am a great sage, equal of heaven.
Grow stick, grow.
Fly cloud, fly.
Oh you are a dee-mon, I love to fiiight." |
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think positive
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King Monkey wrote: | Tannin wrote: | The Kiwis are allowed to do their dumb haka, which is a traditional dance designed to intimidate other groups; any group doing likewise right back at them can only be a good thing. What makes the Kiwis think they are the only ones allowed to act like dickheads? |
I know you're taking the piss, no harm in that!!!!
But, would you make the same comment about an Aboriginal war dance?????
Yeah, thought not.......... |
bingo! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Tannin
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King Monkey wrote: | Tannin wrote: | The Kiwis are allowed to do their dumb haka, which is a traditional dance designed to intimidate other groups; any group doing likewise right back at them can only be a good thing. What makes the Kiwis think they are the only ones allowed to act like dickheads? |
I know you're taking the piss, no harm in that!!!!
But, would you make the same comment about an Aboriginal war dance?????
Yeah, thought not.......... |
^ Dead wrong. Not taking thet piss at all. I've never seen an "Aboriginal war dance", but I can't see any reason why I would not make the same comment about that, or about Ali's famously stupid posturing before a bout for that matter. Well, apart from the fact that we don't seem to see them so they ain't in your face to the same extent. Is there something that makes them different in essence to a haka? _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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think positive
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No sense of theatre Tannin?
"Alis stupid posturing!!"!
a little respect for THE GREATEST!
always makes me laugh when people take pot shots at national treasures!
small ball syndrome! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Tannin
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Ali was a dickhead. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Tannin
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PS: I have enormous respect for great sportsmen who are decent people - for example, Bradman, McGrath, Flower; none for dickheads like Ali and Botham and Acker who just happen to be good at sport.
PPS: I wouldn't want to ban the Kiwis and their "theatre", but if I was playing against them, I wouldn't pay it any respect whatever. They do it to try to get a psychological advantage. Screw that; the best response it to ignore it. Let then look dumb and do what they want, spend their haka time doing more important stuff like waving to the crowd or tying up your bootlaces. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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