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John Wren 
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
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| thompsoc wrote: | | John Wren wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | E wrote: | the model for success is pretty simple.
Step 1. Get 5-6 elite players into your club at the same time and ride that core group to as much success as you can. Hodge, Roughhead, Lewis, Rioli, Mitchell (Franklin)
Step 2 - recruit quality role players into your side in the middle of their careers rather than the end - Lake, Hale, Gibson, Burgoyne, Gunston, MacAvoy, Sphanger (Ceglar). That is lot of quality taken from other clubs over the past 5 years by stealth!
Step 3 - hide your future father/sons so you can pick them up in the rookie draft. Langford.
Step 4 - draft for need to complement the foregoing - Isaac Smith, Bruest, Papuolo, Hill. |
How did they hide langford?
I don't know the story behind this one!
Would really like to get the info on this one? |
grew up and went to school in sydney. nsw scholarship. |
thanks.
but he must have played a lot of afl footy in sydney? |
no. played a lot of rugby apparently.
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Museman
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| Cam wrote: | | We won't be able to put that kind of performance in for years, til our little twigs become mighty oaks of men. Hawk veterans pounded the swans, cheap shots, lingering hits. Made me feel ill seeing how effective it was. |
It was sickening, it was sickening because they found an area to target and went about it without anything like resistance, and they knew there would be little, Sydney have some hard nuts, but they don't have to many pricks.....
There should have been an all in before quarter time....when there wasn't you knew it was over. |
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magpieazza
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Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Location: Griffith N.S.W
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Langford with pick 85 ....masterstroke
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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| Museman wrote: | [quote="Cam"]We won't be able to put that kind of performance in for years, til our little twigs become mighty oaks of men. Hawk veterans pounded the swans, cheap shots, lingering hits. Made me feel ill seeing how effective it was.[/quote]
It was sickening, it was sickening because they found an area to target and went about it without anything like resistance, and they knew there would be little, Sydney have some hard nuts, but they don't have to many pricks.....
There should have been an all in before quarter time....when there wasn't you knew it was over. |
Do you think that could ever happen? |
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E
Joined: 05 May 2010
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| thompsoc wrote: | | E wrote: | the model for success is pretty simple.
Step 1. Get 5-6 elite players into your club at the same time and ride that core group to as much success as you can. Hodge, Roughhead, Lewis, Rioli, Mitchell (Franklin)
Step 2 - recruit quality role players into your side in the middle of their careers rather than the end - Lake, Hale, Gibson, Burgoyne, Gunston, MacAvoy, Sphanger (Ceglar). That is lot of quality taken from other clubs over the past 5 years by stealth!
Step 3 - hide your future father/sons so you can pick them up in the rookie draft. Langford.
Step 4 - draft for need to complement the foregoing - Isaac Smith, Bruest, Papuolo, Hill. |
How did they hide langford?
I don't know the story behind this one!
Would really like to get the info on this one? |
rookie listed player who is now a grea5t player and projects to be one of the best mids in the comp pretty soon and only 2 years removed from the rookie draft.
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slangman
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
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This grand final has proven that without skill, you cannot win.
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RudeBoy
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The Grand Final demonstrated to me that the team which is the most ferocious and hardest at the ball and at their opponents will win the Premiership, even if their opponent is more talented and skilful.
On paper the Swans were a much better team imo. On the day the Hawks brought much more intensity and physicality to the game. |
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Piesnchess
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| RudeBoy wrote: | The Grand Final demonstrated to me that the team which is the most ferocious and hardest at the ball and at their opponents will win the Premiership, even if their opponent is more talented and skilful.
On paper the Swans were a much better team imo. On the day the Hawks brought much more intensity and physicality to the game. |
Spot on, also I reckon the swannies were possbibly a bit cocky, they were very warm favourites, and maybe thought Buddy could nearly do it all, they just seemed to be right off the boil, all their guys aside from Buddy and Malcezski had rotten days, like hannaberry, reid, kennedy, and their rucks got smashed, as did their centres.
The Hawks are the benchmark, again, and must be hunted down, and we must try to be part of that hunt. 
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The_Staunton
Joined: 30 Jul 2007
Location: Hobart
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AFL website saying Hawthorn are the leaders for Frawley...
They keep doing it somehow (not that I think Frawley is worth huge coin, but they keep getting recycled players to sustain their window)
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Collingwood Crackerjack
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Canberra
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Ferocious footy wins finals; always has, always will. If there is anyone at Sydney who was supposed to play the enforcer role they should be bloody traded.
But I can't imagine who could have played that role and stood up to them; Barry Hall woulda been handy.
Just got beat the hell up, it was embarrassing, 2003-esque
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Pies4shaw 
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| The_Staunton wrote: | AFL website saying Hawthorn are the leaders for Frawley...
They keep doing it somehow (not that I think Frawley is worth huge coin, but they keep getting recycled players to sustain their window) |
I agree. I am fascinated about how they achieve this within salary cap. No, I'm not starting a rumour and I'm not being ironic. Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, Lake, Gunston. I know they don't have to pay Franklin anymore, so that explains how they have coin for Frawley but how did they manage that in previous years? |
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slangman
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | AFL website saying Hawthorn are the leaders for Frawley...
They keep doing it somehow (not that I think Frawley is worth huge coin, but they keep getting recycled players to sustain their window) |
I agree. I am fascinated about how they achieve this within salary cap. No, I'm not starting a rumour and I'm not being ironic. Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, Lake, Gunston. I know they don't have to pay Franklin anymore, so that explains how they have coin for Frawley but how did they manage that in previous years? |
Unlike some of our players, Hawthorns have actually played for less than they could've got elsewhere.
They have 3 flags with a little less in the pocket, we have one flag with a lot more in the pocket.
Roughy is on just over half of Clokes pay but kicks more goals.
No player at either Geelong or Hawthorn earns near $1m.
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008
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That hit by Roughead on Hannebery must be borderline reportable.
Hannebery was mid air when it occurred and in a pretty vulnerable position.
It was a cheap shot but effective and in a grand final worth doing.
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Location: We prefer free speech - you know it's right
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| swoop42 wrote: | That hit by Roughead on Hannebery must be borderline reportable.
Hannebery was mid air when it occurred and in a pretty vulnerable position.
It was a cheap shot but effective and in a grand final worth doing. |
In local football, I've seen a few things. Once I saw a final Montmorency vs someone (many many years ago) where the Monty FF was being monstered by a back man, couldn't get a touch, they interchanged him off... brought some other guy on and then the new guy and the back man had a punch out... both were taken off due to it... then the Monty FF came back on and won the game - whatever it takes on the final day of the year... take no prisoners.
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roar
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| swoop42 wrote: |
It was a cheap shot but effective and in a grand final worth doing. |
It was an awesome hit!
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