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Should governments be able to monitor everything we say, do and read?
Yes. If you're not a criminal, you shouldn't need privacy.
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Yes, but only if they keep it to themselves.
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On the internet, sure, but not in "real" life.
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No. Some kind of right to privacy is important.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:15 pm
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I think some photo's can, I would advise against pics of a young person less than fully clothed being posted publicly.

Isn't that just common sense these days?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:19 pm
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Anything less than a burqa is probably inadvisable. Wink

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/02/03/264031.html

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:23 pm
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:39 pm
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CCTV in streets, malls, great idea,

Home monitoring, drones, phone taps, only if there is really good reason to believe you might be about to blow something up, (not dolls Stui, swoop, I'm thinking explosives)

On line. Hmm. No. Absolutely not. What should be monitored is key word sites, anything terrorist, anything illegal, ie underage porn, any kind of torture, no one need to see or do any of that stuff.

Facebook. I have the highest privacy settings, and I'm picky about my friends. I don't have a trillion only people I actually know, physically, or through a very good channel. Ie my cousin in England who I haven't seen since I was a kid, recently came on line. Yet still, I watch what I say, and what pics I put up. I don't have location turned on, I don't use my real name, and I don't very often do the where are you thingy. You never know who's hacking.

No to any kind of chipping, etc etc.

Even if you have nothing to hide you have a right to some privacy.

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:26 am
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Well, that was quick. Nothing like a good manufactured panic for speedy removal of civil liberties:

http://m.smh.com.au/digital-life/consumer-security/terror-laws-clear-senate-enabling-entire-australian-web-to-be-monitored-and-whistleblowers-to-be-jailed-20140925-10m8ih.html

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:02 am
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Another instance of the terrorism panic being used by police to trample all over basic civil liberties:

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/24/police-listened-lawyer-client-phone-call-terrorism-raid

Note that the man in question was later released without charge. This is getting scarily close to Guantanamo Bay reasoning.

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:04 pm
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Another interesting article on this theme: will the end of privacy mean an end to shame and embarrassment?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/24/is-the-ashley-madison-hack-another-step-towards-a-post-embarrassment-world

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Recently, TV presenter Dr Christian Jessen appeared in the tabloids after he and his partner had been caught sending explicit messages to a third person on Grindr. The resulting story felt curiously old-fashioned; that it was somehow assumed to be our business, that it was worthy of reporting in the first place. The celebrity’s response chimed with that sense. Ten years ago, you might have imagined a grand gesture of apology or a plea for forgiveness. But there was no mea culpa; he simply admitted he had been stupid. “It was just horny talk, really,” he said, and explained that he would have to talk to his bosses.

His refusal to be ashamed made me consider whether we are coming closer to a post-embarrassment world. Our lives have been creeping into the public domain for years, and with every new smartphone sold our inhibitions crumble further, taking with them the idea of what it means to be embarrassed in the first place. In time, as each generation subscribes to an ever-widening marker of what is deemed to be appropriate, I wonder if there will be any shame left to hack into. People seem more willing to talk about it all, from which party they voted for to what they are paid, to who they slept with and how and when. Because why would that be off-limits when every other aspect of life, from breakfast to your opinion on Question Time’s panel to the print on your new pyjamas, is documented and shared to excess?

Whether it is reasonable to expect privacy online isn’t the question now, because after Ashley Madison surely nobody believes that privacy is an option any more. There is a doomsday-ish sense that it is all only a matter of time until everything is out there

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:30 pm
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I just love the "I have Nothing to Hide" to justify a Government's invasion into one's lives. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:33 pm
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You love the he or she have Nothing to Hide to justify a Government's invasion into one's lives. What do you like about the he or she have Nothing to Hide to justify a Government's invasion into one's lives so much?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:32 pm
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In the privacy of my home I like to be able perform natural bodily functions with out being watched by a security camera. I like to discuss my views and opinions with my kids without knowing some authority figure could be monitoring our conversations and intervening as soon as they disagreed with what I was telling them.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:30 pm
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And that's the problem, isn't it - with a liberal, non-corrupt government, a society without privacy might be totally fine; perhaps even better than what we have now. But back in the real world, it's an authoritarian's dream.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:44 pm
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Indeed. We need less centralized power. Not more.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:34 pm
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We do but the Government’s want to take it away from us Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:04 am
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If information collected is used to improve the services we get, then I've got no problems.

Government collect information to improve security services
Agencies like VicRoad collect info to deliver a fairer system. Why do I pay the same registration driving 10,000 km a year to someone driving 80,000?
Companies (banks, telco, ISP) collect information to deliver tailored services
Insurance Coy collect info to provided relevant insurance

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:08 pm
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/04/victory-stingray-secret-fake-cell-phone-towers-privacy-not-dead
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