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Meddler80
Joined: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Fitzroy, VIC
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If we traded our first round pick, and another team said they would offer their first rounder for Moore, would we be able to secure him with our second round pick under father son?
Assuming yes, what are peoples thought on the value/trade potential of our first round pick?
I'm liking the idea of packaging HL and that pick for a GOOD key forward and possibly other players/pick swaps (another second round pick or a decent older ruck). Sick of being smashed in the ruck, wits will never make it and Grundy is a few years off. |
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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Not possible. Bidding for F/S selections takes place before the trade period. Instead, we have to hope that no club bids for Moore before our first pick.
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Meddler80
Joined: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Fitzroy, VIC
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | Not possible. Bidding for F/S selections takes place before the trade period. Instead, we have to hope that no club bids for Moore before our first pick. |
Ahh...my bad! Thanks for that |
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Presti35 
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Joined: 05 Oct 2001
Location: London, England
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| Quote: | Friday October 3, by 2pm - NAB AFL father/son bidding nominations; Academy bidding nominations lodged with AFL
Monday October 6, 10am - Father/son and Academy players bidding meeting; NAB AFL Trade Period begins |
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Jamie is only 19
Joined: 02 Jul 2014
Location: Brisbane
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My understanding is that we could trade/swap pick 8 for say picks 17 and 18 or something like that and then be able to pick up Moore with pick 17 and then someone else with 18 in the event another team nominates Moore in the first rnd.
This way we in effect gain pick 18 for nothing .
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woftam 
I used to be undecided, but now I'm not so sure.
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Carum Downs, Vic
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| Jamie is only 19 wrote: | My understanding is that we could trade/swap pick 8 for say picks 17 and 18 or something like that and then be able to pick up Moore with pick 17 and then someone else with 18 in the event another team nominates Moore in the first rnd.
This way we in effect gain pick 18 for nothing . |
Wrong - Guys, father son bidding is complete before trade week starts.
We nominate Moore as a father/son selection if we wish.
The other clubs then get to bid on him.
If a team that finished lower than us bid their first pick, then we have to use our first pick to win his signature. If the only team that makes a first round bid is a team that finished higher than us on the ladder, then we only have to use a second round pick.
So in effect the only teams that can force us to use a first round pick are, St Kilda, Melbourne, GWS, Brisbane, Bulldogs, Carlton & Gold Coast. If any of these teams nominate Moore as a first round pick then we have to use our first pick ( to trump them. If they don't nominate him as first round then we can use a lower pick. I don't like our chances of getting him cheap though. |
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Collingwood Crackerjack
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Canberra
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| woftam wrote: | | Jamie is only 19 wrote: | My understanding is that we could trade/swap pick 8 for say picks 17 and 18 or something like that and then be able to pick up Moore with pick 17 and then someone else with 18 in the event another team nominates Moore in the first rnd.
This way we in effect gain pick 18 for nothing . |
Wrong - Guys, father son bidding is complete before trade week starts.
We nominate Moore as a father/son selection if we wish.
The other clubs then get to bid on him.
If a team that finished lower than us bid their first pick, then we have to use our first pick to win his signature. If the only team that makes a first round bid is a team that finished higher than us on the ladder, then we only have to use a second round pick.
So in effect the only teams that can force us to use a first round pick are, St Kilda, Melbourne, GWS, Brisbane, Bulldogs, Carlton & Gold Coast. If any of these teams nominate Moore as a first round pick then we have to use our first pick ( to trump them. If they don't nominate him as first round then we can use a lower pick. I don't like our chances of getting him cheap though. |
If they bid on him, I assume they are then committed to picking him with their first pick?
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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001
Location: London, England
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| woftam wrote: | | So in effect the only teams that can force us to use a first round pick are, St Kilda, Melbourne, GWS, Brisbane, Bulldogs, Carlton & Gold Coast. If any of these teams nominate Moore as a first round pick then we have to use our first pick ( to trump them. If they don't nominate him as first round then we can use a lower pick. I don't like our chances of getting him cheap though. |
There's your problem.
In fact all those teams need a tall like Moore.
We'll be using pick 8 on him for sure.
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woftam
I used to be undecided, but now I'm not so sure.
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Carum Downs, Vic
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| Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | woftam wrote: | | Jamie is only 19 wrote: | My understanding is that we could trade/swap pick 8 for say picks 17 and 18 or something like that and then be able to pick up Moore with pick 17 and then someone else with 18 in the event another team nominates Moore in the first rnd.
This way we in effect gain pick 18 for nothing . |
Wrong - Guys, father son bidding is complete before trade week starts.
We nominate Moore as a father/son selection if we wish.
The other clubs then get to bid on him.
If a team that finished lower than us bid their first pick, then we have to use our first pick to win his signature. If the only team that makes a first round bid is a team that finished higher than us on the ladder, then we only have to use a second round pick.
So in effect the only teams that can force us to use a first round pick are, St Kilda, Melbourne, GWS, Brisbane, Bulldogs, Carlton & Gold Coast. If any of these teams nominate Moore as a first round pick then we have to use our first pick ( to trump them. If they don't nominate him as first round then we can use a lower pick. I don't like our chances of getting him cheap though. |
If they bid on him, I assume they are then committed to picking him with their first pick? |
Yes they are committed to pick him if they bid. They cannot back out of it if we decide not to trump them. |
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Collingwood Crackerjack
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Canberra
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| woftam wrote: | | Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | woftam wrote: | | Jamie is only 19 wrote: | My understanding is that we could trade/swap pick 8 for say picks 17 and 18 or something like that and then be able to pick up Moore with pick 17 and then someone else with 18 in the event another team nominates Moore in the first rnd.
This way we in effect gain pick 18 for nothing . |
Wrong - Guys, father son bidding is complete before trade week starts.
We nominate Moore as a father/son selection if we wish.
The other clubs then get to bid on him.
If a team that finished lower than us bid their first pick, then we have to use our first pick to win his signature. If the only team that makes a first round bid is a team that finished higher than us on the ladder, then we only have to use a second round pick.
So in effect the only teams that can force us to use a first round pick are, St Kilda, Melbourne, GWS, Brisbane, Bulldogs, Carlton & Gold Coast. If any of these teams nominate Moore as a first round pick then we have to use our first pick ( to trump them. If they don't nominate him as first round then we can use a lower pick. I don't like our chances of getting him cheap though. |
If they bid on him, I assume they are then committed to picking him with their first pick? |
Yes they are committed to pick him if they bid. They cannot back out of it if we decide not to trump them. |
Then for mine it all comes down to Mick; can't see any other club risking it.
How bitter is the old bastard? October 4th will reveal all......
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qldmagpie67
Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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| Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | woftam wrote: | | Collingwood Crackerjack wrote: | | woftam wrote: | | Jamie is only 19 wrote: | My understanding is that we could trade/swap pick 8 for say picks 17 and 18 or something like that and then be able to pick up Moore with pick 17 and then someone else with 18 in the event another team nominates Moore in the first rnd.
This way we in effect gain pick 18 for nothing . |
Wrong - Guys, father son bidding is complete before trade week starts.
We nominate Moore as a father/son selection if we wish.
The other clubs then get to bid on him.
If a team that finished lower than us bid their first pick, then we have to use our first pick to win his signature. If the only team that makes a first round bid is a team that finished higher than us on the ladder, then we only have to use a second round pick.
So in effect the only teams that can force us to use a first round pick are, St Kilda, Melbourne, GWS, Brisbane, Bulldogs, Carlton & Gold Coast. If any of these teams nominate Moore as a first round pick then we have to use our first pick ( to trump them. If they don't nominate him as first round then we can use a lower pick. I don't like our chances of getting him cheap though. |
If they bid on him, I assume they are then committed to picking him with their first pick? |
Yes they are committed to pick him if they bid. They cannot back out of it if we decide not to trump them. |
Then for mine it all comes down to Mick; can't see any other club risking it.
How bitter is the old bastard? October 4th will reveal all...... |
The lions st Kilda Carlton dogs and Melbourne all need tall forwards. GWS and the suns are fine with what they have. It's all defendant on whether any other are prepared to offer picks before our pick 8 for him. They all get to nominate before us so we will know the result before we bid.
With his hip injuries it's unlikely he will go prior to that.
I think st Kilda will try to make a deal with pick 1 with GWS for either Cameron or Boyd in coming seasons. The others will be looking closely at other options as they will want to try to get 2 options for KKP providing one doesn't make it.
We may be very lucky and be able to get him with our second round under those circumstances.
If we don't have to use our first round pick I would like to see us chase a 6ft 2" on baller in the Bontenpelli mold personally. Someone who has that new size factor every club seems to be getting other than us. |
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